00:14 <zombie67> pov?
00:14 <zombie67> hrm
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04:52 <swoody> Is this the channel for the boinc distributed computing project?
04:56 <swoody> Well, I'm assuming so :)
04:56 <swoody> Do ATi cards lag behind Nvidia cards in BOINC like they do with F@H?
04:57 <swoody> or are things more equal w/ BOINC?
04:58 <Tank_Master> no
04:58 <Tank_Master> well
04:58 <Tank_Master> what do you mean by "laging behind"?
05:00 <Tank_Master> theres fewer projects that have ATI support than nvidia, but all the projects that have ATI, the high end ATI cards beat out the high end nvidia cards hands down
05:03 <swoody> ah, well that's good to hear :)
05:04 <swoody> with F@H, the new top of the line ATi cards are worse than the older 8800 series cards :/
05:04 <swoody> Nvidia 8800 series*
05:06 <swoody> Do you know offhand which projects support the ATi cards? Projects where they will beat out the nvidia cards like you said?
05:10 <Tank_Master> milkyway, and collatz run ATI
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05:11 <Tank_Master> and are well optimized for ATI
05:11 <swoody> very cool, I'll have a look into them. Thanks :)
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05:11 <Tank_Master> to give a comparison
05:12 <Tank_Master> a GeForce 8800 gets about 20k credits a day in collatz
05:12 <Tank_Master> but my ATI 5770 gets about 80k
05:12 <swoody> very cool :)
05:13 <Tank_Master> the 5970 gets something like 225-250k credits a day :P
05:14 <swoody> lol, I think I have something to add to my shopping list ;)
05:14 <Tank_Master> hehe
05:14 <Tank_Master> collats is running into some problems with the ATI cards though
05:15 <Tank_Master> theres some bottlenect that in the recent app that is better optimised...
05:15 <Tank_Master> the performace didnt increase much, though the GPU load went down
05:15 <Tank_Master> so basicly its taking less power to run the app now :P
05:21 <swoody> ah, well that's fine I suppose :)
05:22 <Tank_Master> fermi may chage all this
05:22 <Tank_Master> but for now ATI has the undisputed lead in the sciencetific crunching power
05:23 <Tank_Master> my 5770 outdoes the GeForce 285
05:27 <swoody> That's great news :)
05:27 <swoody> I've always wanted to go with a complete AMD/ATi rig, but I always feel like I'm getting cheated out w/ F@H production with the GPU
05:28 <swoody> so now, I can focus my GPU on something like Milkyway or Collatz and not feel bad about it :)
05:29 <Tank_Master> collats has a mroe stable work supply
05:29 <swoody> ah, ok
05:29 <Tank_Master> to get MW to work to its full potential, you have to manualy add/edit some files, thats not the case with collatz
05:30 <swoody> Are there any other projects that ATi does well on too, or are these really the only ones?
05:30 <Tank_Master> theres others working onthe apps
05:30 <Tank_Master> but those are the only to in produtiosn with tem
05:30 <Tank_Master> them*
05:30 <Tank_Master> I think SETI may have one, but the credits there always are poor
05:30 <Tank_Master> so i never bother to keep track
05:31 <Tank_Master> collats is doing prim number finding, MW is doing something astronamy wise, but i forget exactly what
05:32 <swoody> gravity waves IIRC?
05:32 <Tank_Master> thats einstine
05:33 <Tank_Master> they abandoned their CUDA app do to poor performance
05:33 <swoody> ah, that's what I was thinking of
05:33 <Tank_Master> ME rewuieres a video card with double presision support though
05:34 <Tank_Master> the 58xx, 48xx cards, and the geforce 360 and higher
05:34 <Tank_Master> 260*
05:36 <swoody> ah, ok. Well I would be aiming for at least a good quality 4800 card, maybe a used 4870x2
05:36 <Tank_Master> gl finding one
05:37 <Tank_Master> the 58xx perform quite a bit better
05:37 <Tank_Master> and the soon to be releases (if not already) 5830 will perform about he same as the 4870 for around $200
05:38 <Tank_Master> plus itll have DX 11 support
05:38 <swoody> well that doesn't sound too bad at all :)
05:41 <Tank_Master> that should get you around 90k credits in collats and MW
05:42 <dizzie> Mad... since i ditched the GUI client and run a bash only, i complete tasks in avg 1hour 20 min :)
05:42 <dizzie> Toook 4 hours+ with the gui :)
05:42 <Tank_Master> o0?
05:42 <Tank_Master> something was wrong then
05:43 <Tank_Master> or are you refering to a linux gui?
05:43 <Tank_Master> as apose ttot eh BOINC manager
05:43 <dizzie> Ofcause
05:43 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok
05:43 <dizzie> i run it in a screen now :)
05:43 <Tank_Master> wonder why the linux gui slows thigns down so much
05:43 <dizzie> screen -r boinc, if i want to perk :)
05:43 <swoody> dizzie: which DE were you using?
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05:44 <dizzie> swoody, DE?
05:44 <swoody> desktop environment... like KDE, Gnome, XFCE...
05:45 <dizzie> its lightweigt, even for a Core 2 DUO 3.0 with 8GB DDR2@1066 :)
05:45 <Tank_Master> what project are you running?
05:45 <swoody> yeah, that is pretty odd :/
05:45 <dizzie> SAH
05:45 <dizzie> Yeah very odd
05:46 <Tank_Master> havent rean that in years :P
05:46 <dizzie> What?
05:46 <swoody> I'm running Gnome on a 1.7 GHz celeron M, and it's only using ~1-4% CPU
05:46 <Tank_Master> I was running on P3s back then :P
05:47 <dizzie> Gnome :( i dont like.... memhog :)
05:47 <dizzie> Openbox :)
05:47 <swoody> I enjoyed LXDE, but I never really got into the *boxes for some reason :/
05:48 <swoody> (LXDE utilizes Openbox)
05:48 <Tank_Master> (CPU1) Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz @ 2668MHz (ASUSTeK Computer INC. P6T mainboard) (RAM) 6GB, 2.11GB free (HDDs) 3.27TB, 2.02TB free
05:48 <Tank_Master> (VGA1) ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (1GB), 2048x1152x32, 60Hz (OS) Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit, 2d 3h 15s uptime, 1w 5d 23h 44m 29s uptime record
05:48 <dizzie> lol
05:48 <dizzie> even
05:50 <swoody> that's a nice looking desktop :)
05:50 <dizzie> 1920x1080, hehe i like a clean desktop :)
05:50 <swoody> by the way, Sin City is a good movie, Gamer was kind of meh :/
05:51 <swoody> but I do like your conky setup ;)
05:52 <dizzie> gamer was meh i agree
05:52 <dizzie> i'd share my .conkyrc if you want it
05:52 <Tank_Master> only 1920x1080?
05:52 <dizzie> Yes i only have a 23" screen
05:52 * Tank_Master has 2 23" at 2048x1536
05:53 <dizzie> I dont need a big screen to jerk off :)
05:53 <miha> 15.4" laptop here.. and desktop with old 17" iiyama diamondtron,oldies goldies :D
05:53 <swoody> nah, that's ok. I haven't used conky in some time, and when I do set it up nice, I never even make use of it :P
05:53 <dizzie> I have the matrox tripplehead, i just cant be arsed to hook it up :)
05:53 <Tank_Master> that was crap
05:54 <Tank_Master> limited to 1024x720 per monitor
05:54 <dizzie> Yeah well, my set up works for me :)
05:58 <swoody> dizzie: and a big +1 for using irssi :)
05:58 * miha goes to dentist. wish me good luck with drilling and hopefully white polished result :D
05:59 <dizzie> irssi all the time :)
05:59 <dizzie> i used to use Epic, or ircII
05:59 <swoody> ouch, I'm so sorry miha :(
05:59 <miha> dont be
05:59 <miha> it's my wish not dentist's
05:59 <dizzie> Good luck miha :)
06:00 <miha> basicly that filling fell out of teeth now food gets stuck, doesnt hurt yet, though :D
06:00 <miha> thx l8r
06:00 <swoody> miha: well in that case, have a blast :)
06:00 <dizzie> lol
06:00 <miha> thx bye :D
06:00 <swoody> yeah, I started w/ xchat :/
06:00 <swoody> then I 'discovered' irssi, and haven't gone back :)
06:01 <dizzie> xchat is well xhat :)
06:03 <swoody> indeed :)
06:03 <swoody> but now I must go 'discover' sleep ;)
06:03 <swoody> it was nice talking to you all. Take care!
06:03 <Tank_Master> tc
06:04 <dizzie> Take care
06:28 <hawmps> 'lo
06:28 <dizzie> Hello :)
06:30 <wdsmia> &wx dsm
06:30 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 6°F / -14°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.56in / 1035hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High around 15. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low zero to 5 above. East wind near 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. High 15 to 20. North wind near 5 mph in the morning becoming light.;
06:31 <dizzie> Eeeek.... cold !
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06:31 <dizzie> &wx aal
06:31 <Romulus> dizzie: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.06in / 984hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Snow Grains | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Chance of Snow. High:28 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:13 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. High:24 ° F.; Overcast. Low:21 ° F.; Chance of Snow. High:32 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:22 ° F.;
07:02 <Tank_Master> &wx hio
07:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 42°F / 6°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Occasional rain in the morning...then rain likely in the afternoon. Highs around 50. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Near The Gorge... east wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph decreasing to 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - (1 more message)
07:02 <Tank_Master> &more
07:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Rain likely. Lows around 40. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Showers likely. Highs around 50. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
07:10 <dizzie> oh nice, got a boinc output in my conky now :)
07:15 <Tank_Master> your waa?
07:20 <dizzie> google "conky"
07:20 <Tank_Master> why? when i can jsut ask?
07:20 <Tank_Master> :D
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07:21 <dizzie> wb swoody :)
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07:35 <hawmps> bloody friggin cold out
07:35 <hawmps> 4.8/-10 wc
07:38 <dizzie> *passes some hot coffee to hawmps* :)
07:40 <hawmps> indeed
07:49 <dizzie> hawmps, can you explain this?
07:49 <dizzie> 29-Jan-2010 13:44:39 [SETI@home] Starting task ap_20fe07af_B0_P0_00086_20100128_20162.wu_1 using astropulse_v505 version 506
07:49 <dizzie> astropulse? i'm running SAH :)
08:10 <hawmps> sah switches back and forth between AP and SAH
08:13 <dizzie> Ah ok
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08:35 <miha> okey, i survived dentist. it still hurts. on other hand, teeth are almost white now :D
08:35 <miha> so mixed feelings
09:47 <hawmps> always better when it's over, eh?
09:47 <miha> oh, she likes me and we have new appointment in 14 days, to 'heal the tooth' :D
09:48 <miha> she put some medicine inside or something :D
09:48 <miha> funny thing, it didnt hurt before, it hurts a bit now :D
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13:19 <wdsmia_w> Bingo! http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_100947_project-1.gif
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14:38 <Romulus> Title: Drivers & Support | GAME.AMD.COM (at game.amd.com)
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15:15 <Zoness> cool
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15:16 <swoody> heya DC'ers :)
15:17 <Zoness> hey
15:22 <miha> http://mirrors.igsobe.com/nongnu/pgubook/ProgrammingGroundUp-1-0-booksize.pdf interesting ebook hm :D
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16:24 <xcamel> &wx 12074
16:24 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 9.7°F / -12.4°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 30.43in / 1030.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Cold with lows around 1 below. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Cold with highs around 17. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Cold with lows (1 more message)
16:24 <xcamel> &more
16:24 <Romulus> xcamel: around 5 above. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;
16:30 <yoyo[RKN]> I moved to a new server and in php require ../inc/xxx.inc doesn't work anymore ?
16:44 <xcamel> damnedifiknow..
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16:57 <dizzie> yoyo checked filepermissions? (chmod 644 *)
16:57 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
16:58 <dizzie> What error(s) ?
16:59 <yoyo[RKN]> I have it now
16:59 <yoyo[RKN]> followed this http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ServerIntro#permissions
17:00 <dizzie> Ok good
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17:03 <xcamel> innie/outie ???
17:03 <efc> moo
17:04 <xcamel> 'lo e
17:17 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:21 <efc> went and looked at some land for auction tommorrow
17:21 <efc> think I will skip this one
17:23 <efc> probably 100k an acre for junk
17:24 <efc> well not junk, but its not a diamond mind.
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17:51 <xcamel> no natural gas or mineral rights?
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18:50 <Rookie_69> The last two patties are frying in the pan and the guy from the apartment below me has left here on some adventure. I'm good for the night. Must be at least an hour left of it.
18:51 <xcamel> caprica/warehouse 13 on syfy tonight...
18:52 <Rookie_69> I might actually watch tv if I got some of those channels...
18:53 <Rookie_69> ... but that would double my cable bill.
19:17 <Rookie_69> ... and I don't need my cable bill to be more than my beer bill...
19:18 <Rookie_69> ... it's close.
19:19 <Rookie_69> Oh wait... I'm comparing weeks to months. It's nowhere near close.
19:20 <xcamel> lol
19:33 <Tank_Master> &wxf hio
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19:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Are you daft?
19:33 <Tank_Master> no
19:33 <PovAddict> hello world, I'm back
19:34 <Tank_Master> wb pov
19:34 <Rookie_69> Oh no!!!!
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19:36 <xcamel> wb
19:37 <Rookie_69> Warner Brothers???
19:39 <PovAddict> so... I connected my TV tuner card, finally
19:39 <PovAddict> (needed a splitter so both the cablemodem and the tuner card share the TV cable)
19:40 <PovAddict> then I booted the computer for the first time in a week
19:40 <PovAddict> Debian started, took forever in "cleaning up temporary files"... turns out I had a few GBs in /tmp
19:40 <PovAddict> then when X started, it wouldn't accept my password
19:41 <PovAddict> turns out each time I press a keyboard key on the login screen, the letter gets typed twice (press [A], textbox gets 'aa') or three times (press [A], textbox gets 'aAa')
19:42 <PovAddict> I rebooted and got on Windows (I hadn't booted the win partition in *many* months) so I could just test the TV tuner
19:42 <PovAddict> I know the card has worked before on Windows
19:43 <PovAddict> now the bundled software just crashes on startup
19:43 <PovAddict> as if that wasn't enough, it's a zillion degrees celcius in Buenos Aires... so can I please go back on vacation? :/
19:45 <xcamel> come incredible moon tonight
19:45 <xcamel> er 'some' even
19:46 <xcamel> too much fighting with globaloney warmists today to type straight.
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19:57 <PovAddict> hey look, the bundled software is violating the GPL :)
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20:12 <PovAddict> hm tuner working now
20:26 <Rookie_69> I can sorta play the tuner... Is that an acceptable musical instrument?
20:31 <efc> You play the tuner? Hmm
20:31 <Rookie_69> Not very well.
20:33 <Rookie_69> Hi, Eddie.
20:39 <efc> My tuner broke
20:39 <efc> Before that, you could play it
20:41 <Rookie_69> Doug doesn't think that we should be playing with our tuners...
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20:43 <Rookie_69> I've been single long enough that playing with my tuner is none of his business.
20:46 * wdsmia thinks that Rookie_69 needs to find a girlfriend
20:46 * Rookie_69 thinks so too.
20:50 <Rookie_69> Tom's stepdaughter seems to be available... I wonder if I could handle a 27 YO with a rugrat..
20:50 <Rookie_69> Nope.
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21:00 <PovAddict> &seen zombie67
21:00 <Romulus> PovAddict: zombie67 was last seen in #boinc 20 hours, 45 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <zombie67> hrm
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22:01 <Rookie_69> NN.
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