IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2010-04-14

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06:35 <wdsmia> &wx dsm

06:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: Weather for Des Moines International, IA; Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Breezy. High in the lower 80s. South wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Low in the upper (1 more message)

06:35 <wdsmia> &more

06:36 <Romulus> wdsmia: 50s. South wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of light showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then light showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Breezy. High in the mid 70s. West wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent

06:38 <hawmps> 'lo

06:38 * GaelicGrime nods

06:41 <hawmps> 'lo GG

06:41 <hawmps> &wx 12020

06:41 <Romulus> hawmps: Weather for Ballston Spa, NY; Temperature: 31.2°F / -0.4°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Widespread frost this morning. Sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. Northwest winds around 5 mph...increasing to 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph this afternoon; Tonight - Clear. Areas of frost after (1 more message)

06:41 <hawmps> &more

06:41 <Romulus> hawmps: midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight; Thursday - Mostly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of frost in the morning. Highs in the mid 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph; Frost Advisory, Freeze Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 9: 00 AM EDT on April 14, 2010

06:42 <hawmps> nippy..

06:42 <GaelicGrime> touch

07:02 <hawmps> need to go check out a new bike today..

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10:08 <desti> http://developer.nvidia.com/object/opengl_driver.html#dl

10:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yau7hly> (at developer.nvidia.com)

10:11 <wdsmia_w> 200M at MW :)

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11:23 <desti> fedora 13 beta available http://mirror.fraunhofer.de/download.fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/releases/test/13-Beta/

11:23 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/y7tuunn> (at mirror.fraunhofer.de)

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14:23 <tom678> hi

14:23 <tom678> i have one simple question

14:23 <tom678> I want to backup my boinc settings, what files do i need to backup?

14:24 <PovAddict> settings?

14:24 <PovAddict> they are already stored in the project server, no need to backup

14:24 <tom678> I want to be able to re-install boinc from scratch and have my settings back

14:24 <tom678> not the project data, if that's a different one

14:24 <tom678> no, I mean my CPU usage settings

14:24 <tom678> disk usage

14:24 <tom678> active when on batteries

14:25 <tom678> and explicitly the projects I'm attached to too

14:25 <tom678> for I don't want to have to  join each of them individually again

14:25 <PovAddict> CPU usage settings, disk usage, etc. is all stored in the project server, you change those settings from the website anyway

14:26 <tom678> especially as I use a different pw for each, and I don't always remember

14:26 <PovAddict> to keep the project attachments, backup the account_*.xml files

14:26 <tom678> ok, thks

14:26 <tom678> where are those files?

14:26 <tom678> (linux here)

14:26 <tom678> ubuntu to be precise

14:26 <PovAddict> installed from Ubuntu repository?

14:27 <tom678> yes

14:28 <PovAddict> /var/lib/boinc/

14:28 <tom678> ah nice

14:28 <tom678> thank you

14:28 <tom678> :-)

14:29 <tom678> not the other .xml files?

14:29 <PovAddict> if you have a global_prefs_override.xml, you'll probably want to backup that too...

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14:29 <PovAddict> it has the settings you modified from the manager (instead of the project website)

14:30 <tom678> yes, i have

14:30 <tom678> i did all on the manager

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14:32 <tom678> what about all_projects_list.xml?

14:32 <PovAddict> that's the list of all projects, to show on the "attach new project" wizard; it's downloaded from boinc servers periodically

14:33 <tom678> so i don't need to back it up?

14:33 <PovAddict> it's basically this list in machine-readable form: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

14:33 <Romulus> Title: Choosing BOINC projects (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

14:33 <tom678> ah, ok

14:33 <tom678> and nothing out of the projects sub-directory?

14:33 <PovAddict> nope

14:34 <tom678> thank you again

14:34 <tom678> :-)

14:34 <PovAddict> np

14:34 <tom678> oh btw, some report:

14:35 <tom678> am on kubuntu, 64 bit, dual core amd

14:35 <tom678> and when I set it to use both cores and 100% it crashes my machine

14:35 <tom678> overheats

14:36 <PovAddict> get a better heatsink/fan, or make it use less than 100% :)

14:36 <tom678> using both cores I need to set it to 40%

14:36 <tom678> that's pretty low

14:36 <tom678> or higher % but only one core

14:36 <PovAddict> have you cleaned dust from the heatsink?

14:36 <tom678> same setup on my intel core 2 duo and it works with both cores set to 100 with no probs

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14:37 <tom678> both are laptops and still have warranty so i must not open them

14:37 <PovAddict> ahh laptops...

14:37 <PovAddict> stick a vaccuum cleaner on the air openings on the back at least :)

14:37 <tom678> will do

14:37 <tom678> thx

14:38 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Laptop_dust.jpg

14:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cy4aw4> (at en.wikipedia.org)

14:38 <tom678> is it normal it does not use the max I specified but goes like sine?

14:38 <PovAddict> if you tell it to use 50%, it will run for a second and pause for a second, repeatedly

14:38 <tom678> nice pic

14:39 <tom678> hmm, on wndows it looked more like I tell him 90 and when other apps yous 50 it uses 40, if other use 1 it uses 89...

14:39 <tom678> it looked far more flat

14:39 <PovAddict> other programs can give you the illusion of actually using 40% CPU, but that's just because they start and stop faster than 1 second

14:39 <tom678> the overall

14:40 <PovAddict> CPUs are binary, either they run or they don't :)

14:40 <tom678> hmm, ok

14:41 <tom678> now i know all i wanted to know

14:42 <tom678> time to leave again...

14:42 <tom678> have a ncie evening!!

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18:09 <xcamel> mighty quiet

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18:52 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

18:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: Weather for West Des Moines, IA; Temperature: 79.9°F / 26.6°C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 29.00in / 981.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 10.5mph / 16.9km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Breezy. Low in the upper 50s. South wind 10 to 20 mph; Thursday - Partly sunny. A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Breezy. High in (1 more message)

18:52 <wdsmia> &more

18:52 <Romulus> wdsmia: the upper 70s. Southwest wind 10 to 20 mph; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy until early morning then becoming partly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Low around 50. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest after midnight

18:52 <xcamel> hi

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18:52 <xcamel> 80 friggin degrees?

18:52 <Appetite> is there a way to see how much cpu time/power i have donated?

18:53 <xcamel> Appetite >> yeah, boincstats

18:53 <Appetite> aight

18:53 <Appetite> xcamel: where do i access this command?

18:54 <PovAddict> command?

18:54 <Romulus> I guess command is [03:36:20] <@ComradeHaz> !last ComradeHaggis -skip 245, PovAddict

18:54 <PovAddict> http://boincstats.com/

18:54 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager - Detailed user, host, team and country statistics with charts for BOINC. (at boincstats.com)

18:54 <Appetite> oh i see

19:01 <xcamel> just find your username.

19:01 <xcamel> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_13409.gif

19:01 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a7jpqp> (at www.boincstats.com)

19:02 <wdsmia> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_100947.gif

19:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5dglqj> (at www.boincstats.com)

19:03 <Tank_Master> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_29090.gif

19:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6kyauz> (at www.boincstats.com)

19:05 <Appetite> how do i add the projects i am attached to?

19:08 <Tank_Master> what do you mean add?

19:09 <Appetite> well, i mean look at my stats

19:09 <wdsmia> http://boincstats.com/page/faq.php

19:09 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats/BAM! | F.A.Q. (at boincstats.com)

19:10 <GaelicGrime> there is a link, take me a moment to the full graphic

19:11 <GaelicGrime> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_banner_bam51096.png   is that what you are looking for?

19:11 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/y42g8tj> (at www.boincstats.com)

19:11 <GaelicGrime> you build that on the boincstats site once then it is generated each call to the url

19:11 <Appetite> yeah

19:12 <GaelicGrime> http://boincstats.com/bam/signature.php

19:12 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats/BAM! | Signature (at boincstats.com)

19:12 <Appetite> Your BAM!-id is not linked to a valid stats account

19:12 <Appetite> ?

19:13 <GaelicGrime> do you not have a bam account?

19:13 <Appetite> i do

19:13 <Appetite> idk

19:13 * Appetite is so confused

19:14 <GaelicGrime> bam manages your projects for you, can you log in to boincstats.com?

19:14 <Appetite> yeah

19:14 <GaelicGrime> when you log into boincstats.com does it show your stats?  if so then you should be able to generate the graphic

19:14 <Appetite> no

19:16 <GaelicGrime> I suspect that you have not set up your client(s) to report to BAM and/or do not actually have an account set up on boincstats.com

19:17 <Appetite> i have an account on boincstats.com, i just made it

19:17 <Appetite> but i have not set up the clients

19:17 <GaelicGrime> yes, the clients need to report to BAM at least once before the image can be generated

19:18 <GaelicGrime> I do not know how to do this from the command line but will in a moment, I have always used the gui client by remote to set this up

19:18 <Appetite> k\

19:19 <PovAddict> BAM and boincstats are independent, you don't need a BAM account to see your stats

19:19 <xcamel> I still don't trust BAM

19:19 <Appetite> why xcamel

19:19 <xcamel> it deleted projects on me a number of times.

19:20 <Appetite> heh

19:20 <GaelicGrime> I thought the only way to see the detailed per project image was to have a valid account

19:21 <xcamel> nope.. you don't need BAM at all.

19:21 <PovAddict> Appetite: what is your username on boinc?

19:22 <Appetite> PovAddict: i dont know, isn't it per-project?

19:22 <PovAddict> it can be

19:22 <PovAddict> the user name is not even unique, it's just the name that shows up in the stats etc

19:22 <Appetite> well i dont know, because i specified an email and my real name

19:29 <PovAddict> grep hostid /var/lib/boinc-client/client_state.xml

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