IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2010-05-07

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00:53 <zombie67> pov?

00:56 <PovAddict> mmph?

00:59 <zombie67> oh!

00:59 <zombie67> you're awake!

00:59 <zombie67> I need app_info help

01:00 <zombie67> superlink keeps sending my hackintosh ppc apps and tasks

01:00 <zombie67> I want to force it to send intel

01:00 <zombie67> but I can't figure out how to do app_info files.

01:01 <zombie67> tried and failed too many time

01:01 <zombie67> s

01:01 <PovAddict> see the client's startup messages; does it say it's running on Intel?

01:01 <PovAddict> it should say the platform name, like powerpc-apple-darwin

01:02 <zombie67> starting BOINC client version 6.10.51 for 1686-apple-darwin

01:02 <zombie67> i686

01:03 <PovAddict> hmm

01:03 <zombie67> What is

01:03 <zombie67> process got signal 10

01:03 <zombie67> ?

01:04 <PovAddict> damn they have an old server

01:04 <zombie67> yeah

01:04 <zombie67> oh!  What would be compelling reasons to upgrade it?

01:04 <zombie67> I could try that, but it is a longer term solution

01:05 <PovAddict> signal 10 on Mac is SIGBUS

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01:05 <PovAddict> probably memory access out of bounds

01:05 * PovAddict bookmarks http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/signal.3.html

01:06 <PovAddict> signal numbers vary between OSs, even between CPU types on Linux

01:07 <zombie67> so....what does that mean in the context of BOINC?

01:07 <PovAddict> science app crashed :P

01:07 <PovAddict> probably for its own fault

01:07 <zombie67> well, that's helpful

01:08 <zombie67> in any case, now I think I have TWO problems

01:08 <zombie67> the issue with PPC being sent to intel, that was happening on WEP

01:08 <zombie67> and so I assumed it was the same problem here.

01:08 <zombie67> but now I don't think so

01:09 <PovAddict> can you pastebin your sched_request_cbl-link02.cs.technion.ac.il_superlinkattechnion.xml?

01:09 <PovAddict> (also confirm if it really has that insane filename :P)

01:09 <zombie67> in english?

01:09 <PovAddict> your account key will be in it! wipe it out

01:10 <PovAddict> in your boinc data directory there will be sched_request_*.xml files for every project, put in http://pastebin.com/ the one for superlink (removing your account key from it first)

01:10 <Romulus> Title: Pastebin.com - #1 paste tool since 2002 (at pastebin.com)

01:10 <zombie67> okay, gimme a couple of minutes

01:11 <zombie67> doing this all via vnc, so will need to email stuff around

01:11 <PovAddict> blah

01:11 <PovAddict> well you can probably upload it from the hackintosh, just copy the link back

01:12 <PovAddict> or upload it to http://boinc.pastebin.com/, then you don't even need to give me the link, your paste will be the only one there

01:12 <Romulus> Title: Pastebin.com Unknown Paste ID: , (at boinc.pastebin.com)

01:12 <zombie67> copy the link back....as if that wasn't just plain jibberish

01:14 <zombie67> okay

01:15 <zombie67> which is my account key?

01:16 <PovAddict> eh, just wipe anything that looks like 32 gibberish characters :P

01:16 <zombie67> authenticator?

01:16 <PovAddict> yes

01:17 <zombie67> okay

01:17 <zombie67> http://boinc.pastebin.com/x5iq6frK

01:17 <Romulus> Title:  (at boinc.pastebin.com)

01:18 <PovAddict> hmm

01:18 <PovAddict> :/

01:19 <PovAddict> the only reason I see why it would give you ppc apps is if it doesn't have intel apps

01:19 <zombie67> but they do

01:19 <zombie67> and so does WEP

01:20 <zombie67> is the platform name up to date?

01:20 <PovAddict> apps.php?xml=1 doesn't work on superlink, so I can't look at their platform string

01:20 <zombie67> i686-apple-darwin

01:20 <zombie67> oh wait!

01:20 <PovAddict> WEP has 64-bit Mac Intel, not 32-bit

01:20 <zombie67> didn't the name change over time?

01:21 <PovAddict> not that I know of

01:21 <zombie67> I think it did in the beginning

01:21 <PovAddict> there was an unofficial name in use for Windows 64-bit before BOINC supported it

01:21 <PovAddict> but I'm quite sure it was Windows-only

01:21 <zombie67> hrm

01:21 <zombie67> the way mac 64 bit was confusing at first

01:21 <PovAddict> is the Atom 64-bit?

01:21 <zombie67> there were different names for it

01:22 <zombie67> yes

01:22 <zombie67> atom = 64 bit

01:23 <PovAddict> running Leopard?

01:24 <zombie67> but putting aside WEP for a moment, even if SL was trying to feed me ppc, it would still work, just running under Rosetta.

01:24 <zombie67> and that is not happening, so I don't think that is the problem here.

01:24 <zombie67> it IS the proble at WEP, but I can let that go for now

01:25 <PovAddict> I was thinking: recent Mac clients are 32-bit in order to work with CUDA

01:25 <zombie67> running snow leopard

01:25 <zombie67> the client is 32 bit, but will run 64 bit apps

01:26 <PovAddict> however, I'm looking at the code and looks like the client does platform detection when it starts, not hardcoding 32bit when it's compiled

01:26 <PovAddict> if "sysctl hw.optional.x86_64" gives OK, and the OS version is equal or greater than 10.5, it enables 64 bit

01:27 <zombie67> 10.6.3

01:27 <PovAddict> something there is failing, since your client starts as i686-apple-darwin...

01:29 <zombie67> sysctl hw.optional.x86_64 gives "0"

01:29 <zombie67> okay!

01:29 <zombie67> so!

01:30 <zombie67> how do I force BOINC to say it is 32 bit?

01:30 <PovAddict> that's weird; but doesn't explain the superlink issue since they have 32bit!

01:30 <zombie67> we may have dueling problems

01:30 <PovAddict> your BOINC is already saying the supported platforms are i686-apple-darwin and powerpc-apple-darwin, *in that order*

01:30 <zombie67> my weird boinc reporting + their old server

01:31 <zombie67> so i686-apple-darwin = 32 bit osx intel?

01:31 <PovAddict> yes

01:32 <PovAddict> 64bit intel is x86_64-apple-darwin

01:32 <zombie67> hrm

01:32 <zombie67> so then why does WEP work on my 32 bit mac pro, but tries to send ppc to my hackintosh?

01:33 <zombie67> just confirmed the same i686-apple-darwin in the start up message for my 32 bit mac pro

01:34 <PovAddict> WEP has a 64-bit Intel Mac app but no 32-bit Intel Mac app

01:34 <zombie67> Ah!

01:34 <zombie67> http://cbl-boinc-server2.cs.technion.ac.il/superlinkattechnion/results.php?hostid=62085

01:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/28yunvh> (at cbl-boinc-server2.cs.technion.ac.il)

01:35 <zombie67> my32 bit mac pro is also failing at SL, but only sometimes!

01:35 <zombie67> wait

01:35 <zombie67> NM

01:35 <PovAddict> "aborted by user

01:35 <zombie67> I aborted those

01:35 <PovAddict> heh

01:36 <zombie67> dang, thought I found something

01:36 <zombie67> so...I am not going crazy, right?

01:36 <zombie67> there is a real problem here?  I't not my imagination?

01:36 <zombie67> It'S

01:37 <zombie67> and thanks for pointing out the lack of 32 bit on WEP!

01:37 <PovAddict> http://bearnol.is-a-geek.com/wanless2/apps.php

01:37 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at bearnol.is-a-geek.com)

01:37 <PovAddict> the "Mac OS X" line means PowerPC!

01:39 <zombie67> yep, got it.  and just emailed him

01:40 <zombie67> but I am still back to my original problem

01:40 <zombie67> my hackintosh reports correctly

01:40 <PovAddict> the problems are:

01:40 <zombie67> so what's the problem?

01:40 <zombie67> heh

01:40 <PovAddict> - superlink doesn't send you its 32bit app

01:41 <zombie67> wait, let's back up a step

01:41 <PovAddict> - if I'm reading your "sysctl hw.optional.x86_64" result correctly, Snow Leopard doesn't realize your hackintosh can do 64-bit

01:41 <zombie67> okay, you answered it

01:42 <zombie67> so then, what's the problem

01:42 <zombie67> boinc thinks its 32 bit

01:42 <zombie67> ask for 32 bit

01:42 <zombie67> all should be good, right?

01:43 <PovAddict> are you getting PowerPC on WEP?

01:43 <zombie67> yes

01:43 <PovAddict> and does it run properly?

01:43 <zombie67> never let it run

01:43 <zombie67> can you imagine?

01:43 <zombie67> an atom running an emulator?

01:43 <PovAddict> on WEP: boinc thinks it's 32bit intel, asks for 32bit intel or powerpc, WEP sends powerpc because it doesn't have 32bit intel, only 64bit

01:44 <PovAddict> on superlink: boinc thinks it's 32bit intel, asks for 32bit intel or powerpc, superlink sends powerpc even though it has 32bit intel, and I have no clue why

01:44 <zombie67> but I will give it a shot

01:44 <zombie67> do we know that SL is sending PPC?

01:45 <PovAddict> you told me it is :)

01:45 <zombie67> that was my ORIGINAL assumption

01:45 <zombie67> you corrected

01:45 <zombie67> me

01:46 <zombie67> so now I want to know what signal 10 is

01:46 <PovAddict> your paste shows your client is asking for 32bit and powerpc, doesn't tell me anything about what you're getting back

01:47 <PovAddict> all along I assumed that "superlink keeps sending my hackintosh ppc apps and tasks" is accurate

01:47 <zombie67> sorry

01:48 <zombie67> I assumed the same problem as WEP

01:48 <zombie67> since every other project worked fine

01:48 <zombie67> on that machine

01:48 <zombie67> wep is now running PPC apps under Rosetta

01:49 <zombie67> we'll see how long they really tak

01:49 <zombie67> take

01:49 <zombie67> i assume WAY longer than 3 hours

01:50 <PovAddict> btw

01:50 <PovAddict> I was looking at OpenCL specs

01:50 <zombie67> yeah?

01:50 <Romulus> yeah is just there, zombie67

01:50 <PovAddict> looks like getting GPU usage% is just as hopeless there

01:50 <zombie67> dang

01:50 <PovAddict> which would complicate trying to throttle

01:51 <PovAddict> it explicitly says that GPUs don't support preemptive scheduling

01:52 <zombie67> so all or nothing

01:52 <PovAddict> you can't do like on CPUs, run a bunch of processes and let the OS schedule time slices and have them all share the CPU

01:53 <PovAddict> the only way to throttle that I can think of would require tight cooperation from the science app... every single time it asks the GPU to do something, measure how much time it takes, and use that to know how much time to sleep

01:54 <zombie67> meh

01:54 <PovAddict> for example, if you have "use 50% GPU", ask GPU to do something, and sleep for as much time as that took

01:54 <zombie67> no app developer will take the time to know or care about the impact to the user

01:55 <PovAddict> but if individual processing requests take several seconds*, that might be useful to control heat but won't avoid desktop UI lag

01:55 <zombie67> at least not to that level of detail

01:55 <PovAddict> (* I have no clue on how coarse-grained GPU requests can be, I haven't tried any kind of GPU programming)

01:56 <zombie67> oh!

01:56 <zombie67> Is there a way to make an app_info that says "I am 64 bit"?

01:56 <PovAddict> in an ideal world, the GPU would support preemption, and BOINC apps would be low priority, letting all GUI processing take over

01:57 <PovAddict> zombie67: app_infos are to tell the server "I am platform 'anonymous' and I have the application files already; just send me the workunits"

01:57 <zombie67> okay then, back to my ORIGINAL Q

01:58 <zombie67> how to do so with (say) WEP and SL?

01:59 <zombie67> i do not GROK app_info.xml syntax

01:59 <PovAddict> well, you would have to get all files that are part of the application, and write an app_info listing them all... and maybe the only perfect way to know what the files are is copying that info from client_state.xml from a computer that already has that exact app version

02:00 <PovAddict> but that gave me an idea for a tool...

02:00 <zombie67> I have al that!

02:00 <zombie67> I have many 64 bit macs

02:01 <zombie67> but the knowledge to do it is lacking

02:01 <PovAddict> email me a client_state from one and I'll see if I can do one...

02:01 <PovAddict> brb CON

02:02 <zombie67> sent

02:03 <zombie67> CON?

02:04 <PovAddict> Call Of Nature

02:04 <zombie67> hah!

02:04 <zombie67> just did the same

02:04 <zombie67> bio-break

02:06 <zombie67> for SL, there seem to be three apps

02:07 <zombie67> for wanless, just a single app

02:08 <zombie67> wanless = wep

02:09 <PovAddict> you only have one in this client_state

02:09 <PovAddict> loadd

02:10 <zombie67> have one what?

02:10 <zombie67> what do you need?

02:10 <PovAddict> one app

02:11 <PovAddict> but it's the only app I see in the server anyway

02:11 <zombie67> yeah, for wep

02:11 <PovAddict> no, for SL

02:11 <PovAddict> http://cbl-link02.cs.technion.ac.il/superlinkattechnion/apps.php single app

02:11 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3ywepcp> (at cbl-link02.cs.technion.ac.il)

02:11 <zombie67> but for SL, there are three apps in the dir

02:11 <zombie67> killd_1.16_i686-apple-darwin

02:11 <zombie67> loadd_1.16_i686-apple-darwin

02:12 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/superlink_app_info.xml try this, save as app_info.xml in SL project directory; if it works as I expect, BOINC should download the rest of the files

02:12 <zombie67> superlink_1.16_i686-apple-darwin

02:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/38b2o4s> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

02:12 <zombie67> you mean on my atom?

02:12 <PovAddict> actually it seems to have more files than needed, but whatever :P

02:12 <PovAddict> ah those are WU input files... hold on, I'll remove them

02:13 <PovAddict> there

02:13 <zombie67> just a sec.  need to retype all that via vnc

02:13 <zombie67> and I suck at typing

02:13 <PovAddict> use the tinyurl from romulus

02:13 <zombie67> good idea

02:14 <zombie67> crap.  safari suddenly refuses to start

02:14 <zombie67> lemme retry

02:14 <zombie67> er, i meant reboot

02:14 <zombie67> just a sec

02:15 <zombie67> whoa

02:15 <zombie67> SL just stopped sending work to my 8-way mac

02:15 <zombie67> no reason given

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02:15 <zombie67> pkeanty of work in the queue

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02:19 <Tank_Master> SL?

02:19 <Tank_Master> second life? :P

02:19 <PovAddict> SuperLink

02:20 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:20 <zombie67> dangit

02:20 <zombie67> requires me to reinstall boinc to fix permissions

02:20 <Tank_Master> ?

02:20 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:20 <Tank_Master> fun times

02:22 <zombie67> problem:

02:22 <zombie67> messages tab says:  can't specify URLs in app_info.xml

02:22 <PovAddict> dang

02:22 <PovAddict> it used to work, long ago :(

02:22 <Tank_Master> sounds like its time to get a new comp and toss that one to me

02:23 <zombie67> only a couple weeks old.  ;)

02:23 <Tank_Master> well, it is a mac...

02:23 <zombie67> only sorta

02:23 <Tank_Master> mac os?

02:23 <zombie67> hackintosh

02:23 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:24 <PovAddict> zombie67: I'll put a new app_info up, but you'll have to download the other files too (or copy from another mac): loadd_1.16_i686-apple-darwin, killd_1.16_i686-apple-darwin, superlink_1.16_i686-apple-darwin, condor_config.template

02:24 <zombie67> okay, I can do the three apps

02:25 <zombie67> and the template

02:25 <PovAddict> k same URL

02:26 <zombie67> files copied, going to do the app_info now

02:27 <zombie67> dang, rinstalling...

02:29 <zombie67> good news:  No error messages!

02:29 <zombie67> bad news:  No work sent

02:29 <zombie67> same as my other macs

02:29 <zombie67> lemme check my windows machines

02:30 <zombie67> yep, same there too

02:30 <zombie67> must be out of work regardless of the server status

02:30 <zombie67> pov:  THANKS for the help.  I assume it will work, and will let you know when there is work again.

02:30 <zombie67> go to sleep!

02:31 <zombie67> now I need to turn on other work again for all my machines

02:31 <zombie67> VP

02:34 <PovAddict> wow, my to-do list is a complete mix of spanish and english

02:35 <zombie67> no l33t?

02:35 <PovAddict> nope :P

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02:37 <zombie67> gn

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06:20 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 51.5F / 10.8C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Early This Morning - Rain and isolated thunderstorms. Breezy. Northeast wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Today - Mostly cloudy. Breezy...cooler. Numerous showers and isolated (1 more message)

06:20 <wdsmia> &more

06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: thunderstorms through mid morning...then scattered light showers before noon. Isolated light showers in the afternoon. High in the mid 50s. Northwest wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Breezy...colder. Low in the upper 30s. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to around 40 mph.;

06:30 <hawmps> 'lo

06:31 <GaelicGrime> 'llo

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16:31 <xcamel> 'lo

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17:47 <RomW> @Tank_Master, can you email me the log you posted to the test results area?  It stripped the line feeds.

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18:00 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:00 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 81.6F / 27.6C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.33in / 993.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.5mph / 2.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy this late evening and early morning...then becoming partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms early this evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely late this evening. A slight chance (2 more messages)

18:00 <CoderForLife> &more

18:00 <Romulus> CoderForLife: of showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with damaging winds and large hail. Breezy with lows in the upper 40s. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. Breezy with highs in the upper 50s. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph.; Saturday Night (1 more message)

18:00 <CoderForLife> &more

18:00 <Romulus> CoderForLife: - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph after midnight.;

18:01 <CoderForLife> tornado watch

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18:19 <CoderForLife> man - it *feels* like it's going to storm big-time later

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18:20 <wdsmia> same here CoderForLife

18:21 <CoderForLife> humid, breezy, warm, cloudy

18:21 <CoderForLife> 84F

18:21 * CoderForLife goes to wipe the bullseye off his roof

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18:22 <wdsmia> humid, breezy, cool, cloudy, 55F

18:22 <CoderForLife> wow

18:23 * CoderForLife looks at long range radar

18:23 <CoderForLife> ah from Indy to Terre Haute

18:24 <wdsmia> I think we got most of that early this morning here

18:25 <CoderForLife> I was wondering who to blame =)

18:25 <wdsmia> lol

18:25 <wdsmia> looks like its snowing in the upper PI

18:28 <CoderForLife> orly

18:29 <CoderForLife> global warming I suppose

18:29 <wdsmia> so says you and Al Gore

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18:31 <CoderForLife> I know who I am; who's he supposed to be?

18:32 <wdsmia> just some hack

18:34 <CoderForLife> I'm glad he just bought that $6M sea-side mansion to absorb the rising ocean levels

18:42 <CoderForLife> I hope the storms don't Terre him a new Haute

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19:11 <xcamel> happy friday..

19:12 <wdsmia> TGIF

19:12 <Rookie_69> Yay!

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19:34 <CoderForLife> severe thunderstorm watch now

19:34 <wdsmia> lucky you

19:34 <CoderForLife> yippee

19:36 <wdsmia> wind is picking up here

19:36 <wdsmia> maple seeds flying by at 40 mph

19:37 <Rookie_69> ... picking up any trailers yet?

19:39 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:39 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 49.2F / 9.6C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 11.0mph / 17.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Very windy. Colder. Low in the upper 30s. Northwest wind 30 to 35 mph with gusts to around 50 mph decreasing to 20 to 30 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Breezy. High in the mid 50s. Northwest (1 more message)

19:39 <wdsmia> &more

19:39 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Widespread frost early in the morning. Low in the lower 30s. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Freeze Watch, Wind Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CDT on May 08, 2010;

19:39 <xcamel> that front is headed this way pretty fast..

19:40 <CoderForLife> *The house began to pitch. The kitchen took a slitch.

19:40 <CoderForLife> It landed on the Wicked Witch in the middle of a ditch,

19:40 <CoderForLife> Which was not a healthy situation for the Wicked Witch.

19:50 <xcamel> "I just haven't been right since that house fell on my sister..."

19:50 <CoderForLife> heh

19:51 <xcamel> I saw that on a bumper sticker

19:51 <CoderForLife> good one

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20:14 <PovAddict> &seen Zeeno

20:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: Zeeno was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 0 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 29 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Zeeno> nice Jay!

20:14 <PovAddict> nice, almost exactly a year

20:14 <PovAddict> hey Zeeno!

20:14 <Zeeno> Hey. Long time

20:15 <Zeeno> I try to check in at least once per year :)

20:16 <Rookie_69> Too late.

20:17 <Rookie_69> See ya in 1 year, 0 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 29 minutes, and 5 seconds.

20:17 <Zeeno> Close though

20:17 <Zeeno> Lol

20:19 <Zeeno> New job been keeping me busy. Not much free time these days.

20:20 <Zeeno> I see a lot of the same names on here. That's pretty awesome.

20:24 <Zeeno> &seen spit_the_dog

20:24 <Romulus> Zeeno: I have not seen spit_the_dog.

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20:25 <PovAddict> &seen Spit_theDog

20:25 <Romulus> PovAddict: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 2 years, 51 weeks, 0 days, 13 hours, 56 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

20:26 <Zeeno> Good memory. Couldn't remember the spelling.

20:34 <Zeeno> &seen AthlonRob

20:34 <Romulus> Zeeno: AthlonRob was last seen in #boinc 2 years, 9 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, 33 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <AthlonRob> Adios, thanks for the fun

20:37 <Rookie_69> &seen erazor

20:37 <Romulus> Rookie_69: I have not seen erazor.

20:37 <Rookie_69> Digging too deep

20:37 <Rookie_69> '?

20:38 <Rookie_69> Stupod keys.

20:38 <Rookie_69> ?

20:38 <Rookie_69> Stupid keys.

20:39 <Zeeno> Lol

20:40 <Zeeno> &seen comatosed

20:40 <Romulus> Zeeno: I have not seen comatosed.

20:40 <Zeeno> Humming

20:40 <PovAddict> &seen comatose

20:40 <Romulus> PovAddict: I have not seen comatose.

20:40 <Zeeno> Lol. Stupid spell corrector

20:40 <wdsmia> that was the old channel... that reminds me I need to give Si a call

20:41 <Zeeno> I was up your way not too long ago

20:42 <wdsmia> great place to visit but wouldnt want to live here...

20:43 <Zeeno> Lol

20:43 <Zeeno> Me either at that time. It was like a deep freeze

20:43 <wdsmia> that was most of last winter

20:43 <Rookie_69> A bit nippy?

20:44 <Zeeno> Very much so

20:45 <Zeeno> If I remember right. Probably not as cold as where you are.

20:46 <Rookie_69> I live near the Gulf Stream... It rarely freezes too thick here.

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20:47 <Zeeno> Ahh

20:48 <Zeeno> &seen ELGono

20:48 <Romulus> Zeeno: ELGono was last seen in #boinc 2 weeks, 6 days, 7 hours, 26 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <ELGono> just had a nice day with my high-power TV-B-Gone today ;)

20:49 <Rookie_69> &seen TheGasGiant

20:49 <Romulus> Rookie_69: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 7 weeks, 4 days, 15 hours, 33 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> hola boincers

20:50 <Zeeno> Cool. Was trying to remember him. I just kept coming up with TGG.

20:51 <Rookie_69> Paul.

20:51 *** foobar is now known as Fubar

20:51 <Zeeno> I hope to be able to get on here more. I can't run irc on my work computer. They have it really locked down.

20:52 <Zeeno> I bought an iPad and found a goodnclient so I can get on from where ever now.

20:52 <efc> &seen efc

20:52 <Romulus> efc: efc was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 12 hours, 22 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <efc> &more

20:52 <Zeeno> &seen aflac

20:52 <Romulus> Zeeno: aflac was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 39 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 47 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: * AFLAC ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz

20:53 <Zeeno> I talk to him every now and then

20:54 <wdsmia> tell Don Hi for me next time you talk to him

20:54 <Zeeno> Will do

20:54 <Rookie_69> I talked to him at least 1 year, 39 weeks, etc ago.

20:54 <Zeeno> Lol

20:55 <Rookie_69> ... and several years before that.

20:56 <Zeeno> Brb. Gonna see if I can shake him out and get non here.

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21:01 <Zeeno> No luck

21:01 <Zeeno> &seen Zanz

21:01 <Romulus> Zeeno: I have not seen Zanz.

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21:10 <Rookie_69> ... is Old Home Week over yet?

21:10 * Rookie_69 ducks.

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21:13 * wdsmia throws Rookie_69 back into the crevasse

21:14 <Rookie_69> Just where I am most comfortable...

21:15 * wdsmia dumps a box of deadly crevasse spiders on Rookie_69's head

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21:24 <Zeeno> I haven't been on in a year but been on 4 times in the last hour.

21:27 <CoderForLife> you're such a joiner =)

21:27 <CoderForLife> and I'm heading off to Code in the face of the advancing storm

21:27 <CoderForLife> gn all

21:28 <wdsmia> cya Don

21:28 <Zeeno> Later coder

21:29 * CoderForLife vanishes in a cloud of greasy black smoke

21:35 <Zeeno> Later gang.

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21:37 <Rookie_69> Been a blast.

21:38 <Rookie_69> NN.

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21:38 <efc> Night R

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