IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2010-05-24

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06:12 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:12 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 70.9F / 21.6C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Breezy. High in the upper 80s. South wind 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. A chance of thunderstorms in the morning... then (1 more message)

06:12 <wdsmia> &more

06:12 <Romulus> wdsmia: thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. High in the mid 80s. South wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 60 percent.;

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13:52 <PovAddict> this country is so ****ed up

13:54 <PovAddict> tomorrow is the 200th anniversary of our independence from spain, my mom bought an argentinian flag that has a label saying "made in china"

14:20 <Tank_Master> lol

14:23 <hawmps> welcome to the club...

14:24 <PovAddict> hawmps: yeah that's the problem now...

14:24 <PovAddict> in our economic crisis in 2001, many people moved to the US, or to Europe

14:24 <PovAddict> nowadays there's nowhere to go

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14:32 <MTughan> Interesting idea...

14:32 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at

14:32 <PovAddict> I highly approve

14:33 <MTughan> DA just posted it on boinc_projects 3 minutes ago.

14:33 <MTughan> And its first response was a minute later. :P

14:35 <Tank_Master> i like that idea

14:44 <hawmps> afraid to even ask...

14:45 <hawmps> ok.. that's a good idea, generally.

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15:23 <Migi32> is it just me or is WCG not responding?

15:23 <Tank_Master> WCG never goes dnow... :P

15:23 <Migi32> alright... I googled the error and apparently it's because I'm not using a secure connection

15:24 <Migi32> could it be because I'm still using boinc v6.4.5?

15:24 <Tank_Master> what version of BOINC are you running?

15:24 <PovAddict> I doubt it

15:24 <PovAddict> Migi32: what OS?

15:24 <Migi32> PovAddict, Ubuntu 64 bit, it's the default boinc in the repositories there

15:25 <Tank_Master> what version of ubuntu?

15:25 <PovAddict> if you're on Linux, the SSL root certificate list comes with the system (as far as I know) so it's independent of your BOINC version

15:25 <Tank_Master> i think the 10.04 or whatever comes with a newer version

15:25 <PovAddict>

15:25 <Romulus> <> (at

15:26 <Migi32> Tank_Master, still 9.10 but I'm planning to upgrade to 10.04 when I'm no longer on smallband (next month)

15:26 <PovAddict> man that's old :P wonder why karmic doesn't ship a 6.6 at least

15:27 <Migi32> well it's no long-term-support release

15:27 <PovAddict> BOINC 6.6.0 came out in January 2009, Ubuntu 9.10 came out in October 2009...

15:28 <Migi32> alright then I have no clue :P

15:28 <PovAddict> when Ubuntu 9.10 was released, BOINC was up to 6.10.11 already

15:28 <Tank_Master> so ubuntu is behind the times...

15:28 <Migi32> but if the SSL stuff is independent from my version what is the problem?

15:29 <PovAddict> can't know... what error are you getting?

15:30 <Tank_Master> Error: porn not found

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15:30 <Migi32> here's my whole boinc log, relevant errors at the bottom:

15:30 <Romulus> Title: Mon 24 May 2010 12:02:42 PM CE - Anonymous - jWs3K3Eu - (at

15:31 <PovAddict> is your Ubuntu up-to-date?

15:31 <Migi32> PovAddict, as I already said, no

15:32 <PovAddict> I mean, do you have all packages to their latest versions available in 9.10?

15:32 <Migi32> yes

15:32 <PovAddict> what does the command "apt-cache policy ca-certificates" say?

15:33 <Migi32> one sec

15:34 <Migi32> I actually did a apt-get update just before you asked, because my last update was not today but yesterday

15:34 <Migi32> almost done now

15:34 <PovAddict> that shouldn't be a problem

15:34 <Migi32>

15:34 <PovAddict> as long as you have upgraded in the past few *months* :)

15:34 <Romulus> Title: ca-certificates: Installed: - Anonymous - sjA06Hwr - (at

15:35 <PovAddict> does this work on your browser?

15:35 <Romulus> <> (at

15:35 <PovAddict> if it says "Forbidden", it works; if it gives a SSL error, it doesn't :)

15:35 <Migi32> Nope, "Forbidden, You don't have permission to access /boinc/wcg_cgi/ on this server."

15:36 <Migi32> ah so then it works

15:36 <PovAddict> (your BOINC client is trying to connect to )

15:36 <Romulus> <> (at

15:39 <Migi32> (it may be relevant that I couldn't get BoincStats to attach to my WCG account, so I had to do it manually)

15:39 <PovAddict> WCG doesn't work with BAM

15:39 <Migi32> oh ok then

15:40 <Tank_Master> it partly works with bam

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15:49 <Migi32> so... any ideas? my ca-bundle.crt isn't missing, I'm not behind a proxy, if my system clock is off it's by a couple of seconds (and 2 hours as I'm GMT+2)

15:50 <PovAddict> I'd enable http_debug in cc_config.xml

15:51 <Migi32> I don't have a cc_config.xml in my boinc directory

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16:03 <MTughan> Migi32: You'll have to create it.

16:03 <Romulus> <> (at

16:05 <Migi32> ughh

16:05 <Tank_Master> fun times!

16:05 <Migi32> I'll just wait till next month, update my ubuntu and my boinc version and try again

16:05 <Migi32> WCG will have to wait

16:06 <Tank_Master> i wish WGC awarded better credits

16:06 <Migi32> also, CASP9 is still running (I think) so rosetta deserves all the credits it can get as well

16:06 <Migi32> all the cpu cycles, I mean

16:09 <PovAddict> bah

16:09 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: compare only to other WCG users and you won't have that problem

16:09 <Tank_Master> actually, im a bit suprised they dont have GPU apps by now

16:10 <PovAddict> I think they're mostly using giant existing scientific applications

16:10 <PovAddict> that are hard enough to get into BOINC without the wrapper crap, let alone port them to a GPU

16:11 <Tank_Master> possibly, i dont know

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17:21 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:22 <wdsmia> its warm out there

17:22 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 91.0F / 32.8C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 70. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of thunderstorms in the morning... then thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. High in the mid 80s. South wind 5 to 10 (1 more message)

17:22 <wdsmia> &more

17:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph. Chance of thunderstorms 60 percent.; Tuesday Night - Thunderstorms likely. Low in the upper 60s. South wind near 5 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 60 percent.;

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17:36 <Migi32> wdsmia, what part of the world is "50319"?

17:36 <MTughan> &zipinfo 50319

17:37 <Romulus> MTughan: City: Des Moines; State: IA; County: Polk; Area Code: 515; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 41.5929 (North); Longitude: 93.6001 (West)

17:37 <Migi32> ok :)

17:37 <MTughan> &wx YYZ

17:37 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 81F / 27C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Wind south 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 14C(57F).; Tuesday - Sunny. High 31C(88F). UV index 8 or very high. Tuesday night cloudy periods. Becoming clear in the evening. Low 15C(59F).; Wednesday - (1 more message)

17:37 <MTughan> Yeah, it's warm...

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17:53 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

17:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 83.0F / 28.3C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 60s. East winds 5 to (1 more message)

17:53 <CoderForLife> &more

17:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 10 mph.;

17:53 <CoderForLife> mmph 2 u 2

17:55 <CoderForLife> The Aussies 'round here need to put a cork in Vanuatu; it's gonna trigger global cooling and mess up our politics.

17:57 <CoderForLife> bbiab

18:46 <Tank_Master> lol

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19:18 <xcamel> 'lo

19:22 <Tank_Master> howdy

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19:45 <CoderForLife> back

19:45 <CoderForLife> so what's version 6.10.56 got going for it?

19:46 <xcamel> other than "it runs" ?

19:49 <wdsmia> runs or has the runs?

19:50 <xcamel> pffft

19:50 <wdsmia> well at least overruns on deadlines or so reported

19:53 <xcamel> very likely

19:55 <wdsmia> untill they get rid of  fifo its going to happen...

19:56 <PovAddict> nobody understands the CPU scheduler enough to fix it

19:57 <wdsmia> hmmm seems I told them that 4 or 5 years ago when they started the hole std/ltd mess

19:58 <xcamel> you weren't the only one...

19:58 <wdsmia> yup

19:58 <xcamel> and the idiot quota system no in discussion

19:58 <xcamel> now even

19:59 <wdsmia> DA's way is the only way!

19:59 <PovAddict> meanwhile I can't even compile the BOINC manager and nobody's doing anything to fix that - way to attract contributors

20:01 <wdsmia> lol they dont worry theres always some new contributor waiting to brown nose DA he hasent run out of them yet

20:02 <PovAddict> someone should buy the BOINC dev team this book

20:02 <Romulus> <> (at

20:05 <CoderForLife> so - at least 6.10.56 is controversial

20:06 <xcamel> like herpes in a convent maybe...

20:06 <wdsmia> if you want to limit your bandwith it my be usefull

20:06 <xcamel> well.. off with me...

20:07 <wdsmia> cya Jay

20:07 * PovAddict has *never* seen (in person) a GB/month-capped internet connection

20:09 <wdsmia> I agree a real useful feature being a scheduler runs on low pri.. oh wait whats boinc suppost to do?

20:11 <PovAddict> produce interesting topics to write academic papers on

20:11 * CoderForLife loses interest

20:11 <CoderForLife> heh

20:11 <wdsmia> lol yep

20:11 <CoderForLife> I'm off to do something very exciting like put up a new window shade

20:11 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:11 <wdsmia> cya Don

20:12 <PovAddict> if BOINC was backed by a corporation, the answer would be easier: "give them profits" :)

20:12 <CoderForLife> thx Doug, gn PovAddict

20:15 <wdsmia> no corporation would back it... cheaper to start from scratch

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21:16 <zombie67> MT?

21:17 <PovAddict> zombie67: he said "If you can find me the source, I can probably build you one."

21:17 <PovAddict> re: mac app

21:18 <zombie67> wee!

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21:19 <zombie67> source code is here:

21:19 <Romulus> Title: MobileMe (at

21:22 <zombie67> this is the forum thread from the forum where I got the URL

21:22 <zombie67>

21:22 <Romulus> <> (at

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23:34 <MTughan> zombie67: All right, I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Thanks for the link.

23:34 <zombie67> cool!

23:34 <zombie67> thanks MT!

23:35 <MTughan> np

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