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03:29 <isaa__> lol
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03:53 <omguno> Title: EGYPTIAN LOVER/ egypt,egypt /1984
03:53 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - EGYPTIAN LOVER/ egypt,egypt /1984 (at www.youtube.com)
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06:21 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 57.2°F / 14.0°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the lower 80s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the mid 50s. East wind near 10 mph.; Friday - Sunny. High in the mid 80s. East wind near 10 mph.;
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07:01 <Lagan> hello, did any of you have problems connecting to boinc today? I don't know why but it seems that something's wrong
07:12 <hawmps> which project?
07:12 <Romulus> Rumor has it which project is mikus with again, hawmps
08:10 <Lagan> i'm runnning Seti@home and Einstein, but both of them seem to fail. So I guess the problem are not the projects I'm running, there's simething to be wrong with the boinc manager I'm using ( wich is the one from the ubuntu repos)
08:11 <Antagonist> Lagan: Have you checked logs?
08:12 <Lagan> The messages you mean?
08:14 <Antagonist> /var/log/messages and /var/log/boinc/something.log I think it was, both
08:15 <Lagan> When i try to star BOINC it gives the message 'connecting to localhost', but it seems that he can't and shows the message 'disconnected'
08:16 <Lagan> ok, i'll read them, what do I have to do? Thanks for the help
08:18 <Lagan> there seems not to exist such a thing as /var/log/boinc/
08:19 <Antagonist> something in /var/log/ that looks boinc related?
08:19 <Lagan> yes
08:19 <Lagan> let me try a locate
08:19 <Antagonist> Then that one. I'm working off memory, on a windows machine now.
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08:22 <Lagan> oh wait, that isn't boinc, that is boot
08:22 <Lagan> shame on me
08:22 <Lagan> :P
08:23 <Lagan> well, I'll continue on it later on, time to eat
08:23 <Lagan> and again, thanks for the help
08:25 <Antagonist> mkay
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09:18 <hawmps> &wx 12020
09:18 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 71.6°F / 22.0°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe with damaging winds and large hail this afternoon. Much cooler with highs in the upper 70s. East winds (1 more message)
09:18 <hawmps> &more
09:18 <Romulus> hawmps: around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds and large hail in the evening. Cooler with lows in the mid 50s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. Light and variable winds.;
09:31 <Lagan> nice
09:53 <hawmps> yesterday was 95F
10:07 <Lagan> well i think i'm going to reinstall it all and see what happens
10:07 <Lagan> wish me well
10:21 <hawmps> good luck then...
10:21 <Lagan> thanks
10:30 <hawmps> OSSEC v. 2.4 is out
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11:22 <hillhopper> hello, anyone
11:23 <Lagan> hello
11:23 <hillhopper> I have a question regarding server status and service
11:24 <hillhopper> ok, I'm getting short connections and long delays on data transfer
11:25 <PovAddict> on what project?
11:25 <hillhopper> WCG
11:25 <PovAddict> each project server is independent
11:33 <hillhopper> example: latest message=Thu 27 May 2010 11:32:44 AM EDT|World Community Grid|Backing off 2 hr 59 min 33 sec on download of nk230-239_aank23503_05.075_v1_3.gz
11:37 <hillhopper> When I ran folding@home they had a web page with current server stats...
11:38 <PovAddict> WCG notably doesn't
11:38 <hillhopper> I noticed
11:38 <PovAddict> also doesn't have a lot of other things that are normal in BOINC projects :P
11:39 <hillhopper> I'm on a dialup, so delays are a nuisance line tie up
11:39 <Romulus> Title: Server status page (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
11:39 <hillhopper> seti is listning for extraterrestrials?
11:39 <hillhopper> rubbish
11:41 <Romulus> Title: Einstein@Home - Server Status (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)
11:41 <hawmps> wcg is kind of an odd duck.
11:41 <hillhopper> ok, some have it, some don't. wcg quack quack
11:42 <PovAddict> most have it, wcg lacks a lot of things most BOINC projects have
11:42 <hillhopper> nice graphics though
11:42 <Lagan> any of you run boinc under ubuntu?
11:42 <hillhopper> I do
11:42 <hillhopper> or, I am
11:43 <Lagan> wich is the best way to install it, repos or script download ?
11:43 <hillhopper> synaptic
11:43 <Lagan> why?
11:44 <PovAddict> because then it will run on its own user account and automatically start when the system boots
11:44 <Lagan> well, thats not quite correct
11:44 <Lagan> it'll only do if you set that on booting conditions
11:45 <hillhopper> forget the upgrades, may not match system config well. I installed the "latest" version and had more problems than with 5.10.45
11:45 <PovAddict> Lagan: the ubuntu package adds an /etc/init.d script that starts BOINC on boot
11:45 <hillhopper> that's ok if you have work to do, but transfers are another story
11:46 <Lagan> wow, it didn't work on my pc; I have to manually start it
11:46 <PovAddict> hillhopper: transfer timeouts are not the client's fault
11:46 <hillhopper> ok. I realize they are server probs
11:47 <Lagan> ok, tell me more, i'm here to learn
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11:47 <hillhopper> My choice is to install the recommended version using synaptic
11:47 <Lagan> but won't it be out of date?
11:48 <EagleScreen> hi
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11:48 <hillhopper> "date" is for courting. Versions are matched to a set of complex parameters
11:48 <EagleScreen> i am a Linux user interested in using BOINC
11:48 <hillhopper> go for it
11:48 <PovAddict> Lagan: Ubuntu Lucid has BOINC 6.10.17
11:49 <hillhopper> Hardy uses 5.10.45
11:49 <EagleScreen> i use currently OpenSuse Factory + KDE 4.4
11:49 <EagleScreen> some years ago I rememeber a KDE gui for BOINC, do you know anything about it?
11:49 <PovAddict> hillhopper: wut, didn't Hardy lose support already? that's ancient :P
11:50 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: there is a KBoincSpy app, but I think it hasn't been maintained in a long time... what's wrong with boinc manager? :P
11:50 <hillhopper> No, Hardy LTS 8.04.4
11:51 <EagleScreen> I dude if boinc-manager has supoort for KDE integration, for isntance, only working when AC-powered and so..
11:51 <EagleScreen> os is it independent of DE?
11:51 <PovAddict> uhh, the GUI has no control over that anyway
11:52 <EagleScreen> :o why?
11:52 <PovAddict> the BOINC client (daemon) uses OS-specific (not DE-specific) methods to know if you're on batteries
11:52 <PovAddict> it should work even with no GUI running
11:52 <EagleScreen> ohmm
11:52 <PovAddict> I don't see how AC-power is related to KDE...
11:52 <Lagan> but a GUI is always wellcome
11:53 <EagleScreen> KDe uses a daemon called powerdevil for energy stuff
11:53 <hillhopper> It starts running even before the GUI is loaded
11:53 <EagleScreen> oh then, if I do not open boinc-manager, is boinc already doing its work?
11:53 <hillhopper> it is on mine
11:54 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: depends how you installed it
11:54 <hillhopper> the client does the work
11:54 <EagleScreen> now i haven't it installed
11:54 <PovAddict> all distro packages (that I know of) start the client when the system boots
11:54 <hillhopper> the manager runs the client's user input
11:54 <EagleScreen> oh
11:54 <EagleScreen> there is Suse packages featuring this?
11:55 <hillhopper> dunno
11:55 <PovAddict> I never used suse
11:55 <EagleScreen> i only see some bit old packages
11:55 <PovAddict> I think they do that, yes...
11:55 <EagleScreen> Susa has boinc version 6.4.5
11:55 <PovAddict> last I checked, there was a giant security hole in opensuse's BOINC startup scripts, they ran the BOINC client as root... I sure hope they fixed that by now
11:56 <hillhopper> run a firewall
11:56 <PovAddict> how would a firewall help?
11:56 <EagleScreen> is 6.4.5 version usable?
11:57 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: sure
11:57 <PovAddict> well, as usable as BOINC always is...
11:57 <hillhopper> limit connection traffic for better control over security against the curious
11:58 <hillhopper> Bastille is kinda neat too
11:58 <Romulus> Title: BOINC: compute for science (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
11:58 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: then it won't auto-start, unless you write the startup script yourself :P
11:59 <EagleScreen> mmmm
11:59 <EagleScreen> I can write bash code
11:59 <PovAddict> also won't run the client on a separate user account, or add the boinc manager to your KDE application list
12:00 <EagleScreen> yes but it is up to date
12:00 <PovAddict> get it then :)
12:01 <hillhopper> date is not a necessary factor since versions should match systems, not clocks
12:01 <EagleScreen> one dude more: I usually switch from different Linux distrobutions installed in the same computer, can I make all of them share the same BOINC (running the same task) ??
12:02 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: if they are all for the same architecture (ie. not one for 32-bit and another for 64-bit), it's technically possible, but you're on your own setting up that :P
12:02 <hillhopper> if you want to reboot into a different system each time. Only one system runs at a time
12:02 <EagleScreen> all are 32bits
12:03 <hillhopper> so?
12:03 <Romulus> Rumor has it so is mine. lol, hillhopper
12:03 <Lagan> EagleScree: Are you spanish?
12:03 <EagleScreen> i mean the new booted system to continue the task of the old system
12:03 <EagleScreen> yes i am
12:03 <hillhopper> how many bits in a byte
12:03 <PovAddict> always 8
12:03 <hillhopper> nibble?
12:03 <PovAddict> in any decent system
12:04 <PovAddict> 4
12:04 <hillhopper> not Nintendo?
12:04 <Lagan> bueno, entonces has de saber que cuando les hagas una pregunta --> question, que dude en inglés significa colega
12:04 <hillhopper> si
12:05 <Romulus> Title: BOINC: compute for science (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
12:05 <Lagan> jejeje
12:05 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: I don't think it'd make a significant difference
12:06 <Romulus> Title: Dude - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre (at es.wikipedia.org)
12:06 <EagleScreen> where BOINC save its data? which directory? doesn it depends on distro packagers?
12:06 <omguno> idk
12:06 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: yes, it differs even between debian and ubuntu
12:06 <PovAddict> it's usually /var/lib/boinc or similar
12:07 <PovAddict> you could symlink them all to some directory shared between your distros
12:08 <hillhopper> good, then you have to know that when you do a question to them --> question, that doubts in English means colleague
12:08 <hillhopper> silly babelfish
12:09 <hillhopper> Isn't Ubuntu Debian based?
12:09 <Lagan> yes
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12:10 <hillhopper> It's been fun folks
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12:13 <EagleScreen> I supose there is no possible to share it between any Linux and Windows.. right?
12:14 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: not really, because there is no guarantee the application's intermediate state files are portable
12:15 <PovAddict> and the application files themselves are different
12:16 <EagleScreen> ok ok
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12:34 <EagleScreen> where save data upstream BOINC package?
12:34 <omguno> idk
12:35 <PovAddict> EagleScreen: in the only directory it has :P
12:36 <EagleScreen> I suspect that :)
12:36 <PovAddict> the core client saves data in the current directory
12:37 <PovAddict> the run_client script switches to the directory where you extracted BOINC, and runs ./boinc_client
12:37 <PovAddict> so data is saved in the same directory as the binaries
12:37 <EagleScreen> ok then I only have to share this folder between other Linux OS
12:41 <EagleScreen> I hope for if I use the same user for different computers, they to do different work
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13:14 <Lagan> hello
13:17 <Tank_Master> hi
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17:06 <CoderForLife> hey Rom
17:07 <RomW> Howdy
17:08 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
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17:08 <CoderForLife> &more
17:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 50 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the morning. Highs in the mid 80s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows around 60. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;
17:08 <CoderForLife> the t-storms are bearing down on me
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17:26 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:26 <wdsmia> &tgif
17:26 <Romulus> Agreed...
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18:14 <PovAddict> &urlunquote =%7E
18:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: =~
18:19 <Lagan> PovAddict: Playing with the bot?
18:25 <CoderForLife> but wdsmia...
18:26 <CoderForLife> Thursday Goes In front of Friday
18:27 <PovAddict> lol
18:27 <wdsmia> Friday for me
18:27 <wdsmia> and a 4 day weekend :)
18:28 <Tank_Master> fun times
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18:55 <CoderForLife> hmm a SETI e-mail
18:56 <PovAddict> not seen it yet
18:56 <CoderForLife> Outlook complained about it being untrustworthy
18:57 <CoderForLife> bbiab - Stephen went downstairs for dinner and I'm going yo go sit with him
18:57 <CoderForLife> going to
18:57 <CoderForLife> yo man
18:57 <CoderForLife> bb
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19:44 <xcamel> 'lo
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19:50 <CoderForLife> back
19:50 <CoderForLife> re-hi
19:50 <efc> moo
20:24 <CoderForLife> moo efc
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20:56 <CoderForLife> gn
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