IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2010-08-14

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00:31 <efc> From that /. story earlier I suppose

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02:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

02:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 77.5°F / 25.3°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.53in / 999.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with isolated showers and thunderstorms until early morning...then mostly clear late. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny with a (1 more message)

02:46 <CoderForLife> &more

02:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Humid with highs in the mid 90s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. Heat index values up to 106 in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Muggy. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

02:46 <efc> moo cfl

02:50 <efc> &wx 30625

02:50 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the mid 70s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday - (1 more message)

02:50 <efc> &more

02:50 <Romulus> efc: Showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning... then showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Heat index readings 100 to 104. East winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Saturday Night - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Lows in the mid 70s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

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03:21 <CoderForLife> moo efc

03:21 <CoderForLife> just had some breakfast

03:22 <efc> Its a bit early.

03:22 <efc> I've not been to bed yet.

03:22 <CoderForLife> was so excited above my Code progress, I couldn't sleep past 2:30

03:22 <efc> Code doesn't excite me much anymore :/

03:24 <CoderForLife> I remember back when you were bit blitting

03:24 <CoderForLife> looking for an optimum algorithm

03:24 <efc> I mostly figured it out, did not finish though.

03:24 <efc> I'm so sick of code from work. Don't need any more.

03:25 <efc> I'm no longer deluded into thinking I can make money independently from it.

03:25 <CoderForLife> I am fully smitten with that delusion

03:25 <CoderForLife> but over time

03:26 <efc> I once had some plans. Didn't think I could pull it off though.

03:26 <CoderForLife> I just pulled together last night all my work from about 2002 until now

03:29 <efc> Verdict: Start Over ?

03:29 <CoderForLife> To quote Aragorn to Gandalf: "What does your heart tell you?"

03:30 <efc> Its been consistently saying "F this" for the past 10 years

03:30 <CoderForLife> Doesn't sound like a path you shold go down then

03:31 <efc> Too late

03:31 <CoderForLife> You've been down that road before, Neo.  And you know exactly where it leads.

03:32 <efc> I have enough dough to quit now, but not forever.

03:33 <efc> 27 years, back of the envelope

03:34 <CoderForLife> then don't rush it

03:34 <CoderForLife> find something you love doing, and do that

03:35 <efc> My timeline shortens when I'm floating the VC for stuff

03:36 * CoderForLife tries to navigate the AT&T Wireless web site

03:37 <efc> Tell them to run DSL out here.

03:37 <efc> Every compound should get high speed internet access.

03:38 <CoderForLife> I'm sure that will galvinize the attention of the wireless division

03:38 <efc> There is a cell phone tower very close, but we never found that option viable for internet.

03:42 <efc> ZZzzzzzout

03:42 <efc> might be raining in the morn

03:43 <CoderForLife> indeed

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15:35 <RomW> CFL?

15:35 <Romulus> I guess CFL is maybe busy doing husbandly chores, RomW

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16:24 <CoderForLife> hey RomW

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16:25 <CoderForLife> pretty strong t-storms seem to be moving in

16:25 <RomW> Do you happen to know a good rule of thumb for the default number of threads in a thread pool?

16:26 <RomW> When I worked at MS, it was 1 thread per processor

16:26 <CoderForLife> generally speaking?

16:26 <RomW> yeah

16:26 <CoderForLife> golly

16:26 <CoderForLife> let me think

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16:27 <RomW> Well, let me give some background

16:27 <RomW> I'm working on an alternative for the GUI RPC mechinism for BOINC

16:27 <RomW> on the manager side

16:27 <RomW> or client-side of you will

16:28 <RomW> So more than likely a few threads will be blocked on network IO

16:28 <RomW> At the same time it seems excessive for me to spin up 80 threads on and 80 proc machine if someboyd is only connected to a single host

16:29 <CoderForLife> take a crack at this Java example

16:29 <Romulus> <> (at

16:31 <CoderForLife> iirc thread pools are typically sized between 10 and 100 for Java apps; database apps do it differently

16:31 <CoderForLife> "it all depends" =)

16:31 <RomW> lol

16:32 <RomW> doesn't it always

16:32 <CoderForLife> see - I have the necessary skillset to make it as a consultant

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16:33 <CoderForLife> beware - "zombies", "thread leakage" and "thread death"

16:34 <CoderForLife> speaking of thread death

16:34 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

16:34 <CoderForLife> hello Paul

16:34 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.50in / 999hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h ; Unknown. High:51 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:53 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:50 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ° F.;

16:34 <TheGasGiant> hola Don

16:34 <RomW> Howdy

16:34 <TheGasGiant> g'day Rom

16:34 <CoderForLife> I'm having a light-hearted chat with RomW on thread pools

16:35 <CoderForLife> starting at the shallow end, but moving in deeper

16:35 <TheGasGiant> i see

16:35 * CoderForLife looks around

16:36 <RomW> I guess I'm going to have to wait until I'm far enough along in the coding of it to actually be able to run some tests

16:36 <TheGasGiant> don't mind me...keep discussing and I'll see if I can contribute :)

16:36 <CoderForLife> I think that's right RomW

16:36 <RomW> For now i'll just leave it at one thread for some CPU

16:36 <CoderForLife> As IBM said in that article "To tune the thread pool size effectively, you need to understand the tasks that are being queued and what they are doing. Are they CPU-bound? Are they I/O-bound? Your answers will affect how you tune your application. If you have different classes of tasks with radically different characteristics, it may make sense to have multiple work queues for different types of tasks, so each pool can be tuned acco

16:37 <CoderForLife> You may want to start just with the option of making it tunable later

16:37 <CoderForLife> don't Code yourself into a corner

16:38 <CoderForLife> Speaking of Coding, I'm making great strides TGG

16:38 <CoderForLife> Being able to focus on it while recovering of the surgery has done it a world of good

16:38 <RomW> The worker thread pool can grow or shrink dynamically

16:38 <TheGasGiant> excellent CFL

16:39 <CoderForLife> but then you risk runaway thread allocation, don't you RomW?

16:39 <xcamel> 'lo Paul..

16:39 <xcamel> and Rom

16:39 <CoderForLife> hey Jay

16:39 <TheGasGiant> g'day Jay

16:41 <CoderForLife> You might want to implement a "skulker" or "reaper" process what wakes up every so often and kills threads that have not been used after a set period of time

16:41 <RomW> I suppose, but since it is a different thread outside of the scope of the thread pool that is dolling out assignments it can be hard capped relative to the CPU count or something like that

16:41 <CoderForLife> what=that

16:42 <CoderForLife> and I don't mean Skulker - the AU rock band, TheGasGiant =)

16:43 <TheGasGiant> who?  never heard of them!

16:43 <TheGasGiant> honestly...

16:43 <CoderForLife> heh

16:43 <Romulus> Title: Skulker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

16:43 <TheGasGiant> CFL, recovering from the surgery OK

16:44 <CoderForLife> yeah - a bit more sore today, but I managed to get to the grocery store this morning with the family.  I "supervised" while they did all the "getting" and cart pushing.

16:45 <CoderForLife> I went out to get dinner, and drove the car for the first time since a week ago Wednesday

16:45 <TheGasGiant> i'm seeing a surgeon about mine on Tuesday...with some trepedation...I don't like pain and this is the second step towards being in it

16:46 <CoderForLife> heh

16:46 <TheGasGiant> wow...A week without driving..unheard of!

16:46 <RomW> TGG, depends on the drugs they give you afterwords

16:46 <CoderForLife> well - I was having "get your attention" pain when I'd stand for awhile, sit down, and then stand up

16:46 <TheGasGiant> lol..true Rom.  I think I'll be relyin gon them

16:47 <CoderForLife> I was taking percocet, but it has some side effects that worried me

16:47 <TheGasGiant> ahh..hence the no driving

16:47 <CoderForLife> that was one

16:47 <TheGasGiant> I sore (pun intended) a youtube vid of the operation...ugh.

16:48 <CoderForLife> oh wow - I didn't go there

16:48 <TheGasGiant> the cut may as well be a ceaserian!

16:49 <RomW> I don't know if I've been on percocet before

16:49 <TheGasGiant> the strongest i've has is paracetomol with some codiene...

16:49 <CoderForLife> that's the point of percocet

16:50 <TheGasGiant> still feel the pain, just don't remember it

16:50 <CoderForLife> remember what?

16:50 <TheGasGiant> or anything else

16:50 <RomW> lol

16:50 <CoderForLife> rain coming in - we're about to get clobbered

16:50 <TheGasGiant> radar link?

16:51 <CoderForLife>

16:51 <Romulus> <> (at

16:51 <CoderForLife> I'm just north of the 2nd "o" in Kenwood

16:52 <TheGasGiant> looks intense

16:53 <CoderForLife> it's "pulsing" up and down

16:53 <CoderForLife> more down currently

16:53 <TheGasGiant> tornado warning?

16:53 <CoderForLife> severe t-storm warning

16:53 <TheGasGiant> for me ->

16:53 <CoderForLife> winds to 50mph

16:53 <Romulus> <> (at

16:53 <xcamel> Another pet adoption day... they did a good job.

16:54 <CoderForLife> good job Jay

16:54 <TheGasGiant> I'm at the e of Melbourne

16:54 <CoderForLife> that's a wonderful cause

16:54 <xcamel> this one was down near albany... we're looking at another dog, as we lost our newfie last tuesday.

16:54 <TheGasGiant> neeed to shit down the pet that's a cause

16:54 <wdsmia> asks TheGasGiant to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:55 <TheGasGiant> sit..

16:55 <xcamel> Buddy needs a buddy.

16:55 <xcamel> shut even

16:55 <TheGasGiant> that's it

16:55 <CoderForLife> indeed xcamel

16:55 * TheGasGiant notes it's 6:55am Sunday mroning and he hasn't had his coffee yet.

16:56 <CoderForLife> I heard a stat on the radio last week that there are more pets than people born in the US each day

16:56 <CoderForLife> never thought about it before

16:56 <TheGasGiant> wow

16:56 <xcamel> likely so. not enough spay/neuter

16:57 <xcamel> ...which we promote heavily.

16:57 * CoderForLife watches leaves and dead branches fall outside

16:58 * TheGasGiant watches the sky get slowly brighter and that great morning light start to kick in

16:58 <CoderForLife> wind gusts

16:58 <xcamel> oh yeah, that's ugly.

16:58 <xcamel> worst in NE of you though

16:58 <xcamel> is, even.

16:58 <CoderForLife> I think the lower section is going to fire up

16:59 <CoderForLife> right - up in Clinton County

16:59 <xcamel> it's a 'dead slot' - you might get lucky.

16:59 <CoderForLife> hoipe so, but...

17:00 <xcamel> the area with the lowest returns is heading for you

17:00 <xcamel> HD rad says you're generally in the clear.

17:03 <CoderForLife> let's hope it "lays low" in the returns department

17:03 * CoderForLife starts into i18n support in his Code

17:03 <CoderForLife> now the fun really begins

17:03 <CoderForLife> hello?

17:04 <TheGasGiant> ?

17:04 <CoderForLife> testing

17:04 <TheGasGiant> just starting a wtf credit reduction thread at aqua

17:05 <CoderForLife> I lost internet there for about 15 seconds

17:05 <TheGasGiant> nah..we just ignored you :p

17:06 <CoderForLife> nah - couldn't comm to any web sites

17:06 <CoderForLife> couldn't find Google

17:06 <CoderForLife> all my "connection" lights turned "red"

17:06 <TheGasGiant> eek

17:07 <CoderForLife> I can't tell if my problem is with the ISP or my router/firewall. or "modem"

17:08 <TheGasGiant> if that happnes for me it's usually any one of the above :p

17:09 <xcamel> all of the above.

17:09 <xcamel> potential mutt - just like my guy 'bear' who got hit 2 years ago...

17:09 <xcamel>

17:09 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Laddy ~ Animal Protective Foundation (at

17:09 <CoderForLife> Sod and Murphy ususally conspire

17:10 <xcamel> aussie cattle dog.

17:10 <xcamel> "ish"

17:11 <TheGasGiant> no tail?

17:12 * CoderForLife angles his house for the slot

17:14 <CoderForLife> pushing the house around post-op is quite a challenge

17:15 <TheGasGiant> lol..looks like it'll just skim you

17:16 <CoderForLife> I watched "MegaStructures : NORAD" yesterday on the NatGeo channel; how they pivoted NORAD inside Cheyenne Mountain due to fault lines they found

17:17 <CoderForLife> They had not finished mining it out or building internal structures yet

17:17 <TheGasGiant> pivoted?

17:17 <TheGasGiant> inside?

17:17 <TheGasGiant> mountain?

17:17 <CoderForLife> yup

17:18 <TheGasGiant> you mean they adapted to what they found as they constructed...

17:18 <CoderForLife> once they dug into the mountain, they found some unexpected faults

17:18 <CoderForLife> if they built it as designed, a nuke popped on the mountain could crush NORAD

17:18 <TheGasGiant> hate to imagine what might have happened if they hadn't

17:19 <CoderForLife> so they rotated the whole complex design by aout 45 degrees counter-clockwise

17:19 <CoderForLife> to better handle the faults

17:19 <CoderForLife> then built a hardened dome over the command center itself

17:20 <CoderForLife> before that, NORAD was in an office building in downtown Colorado Springs

17:20 <TheGasGiant> lol..when was it built

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17:25 <TheGasGiant> hope CFL is OK...

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17:28 <CoderForLife> grr

17:29 <CoderForLife> what did you see when dropped out?

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17:29 <CoderForLife> hello?

17:29 <TheGasGiant> hello!

17:30 <TheGasGiant> [07:19] <CoderForLife> then built a hardened dome over the command center itself

17:30 <TheGasGiant> [07:20] <CoderForLife> before that, NORAD was in an office building in downtown Colorado Springs

17:30 <TheGasGiant> [07:20] <TheGasGiant> lol..when was it built

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17:30 <TheGasGiant> [07:25] <TheGasGiant> hope CFL is OK...

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17:30 <TheGasGiant> [07:28] <CoderForLife> grr

17:31 <TheGasGiant> hello?

17:31 <CoderForLife> my local LAN was alive, and the cable modem was blinking it's little brains out, but I powered it off/on

17:31 <PovAddict> back

17:31 <TheGasGiant> hola nick

17:31 <CoderForLife> seems to be in the ISP/network

17:32 <TheGasGiant> weather related maybe...

17:32 <CoderForLife> I just don't want to spent the 3+ hours on hold

17:32 <CoderForLife> M-F 8-5

17:32 <CoderForLife> this has been happening for at least 24 hours now

17:33 <PovAddict> my sister went to sleepover party for my cousin's birthday

17:33 <TheGasGiant> damn..

17:33 <TheGasGiant> eek!

17:33 <CoderForLife> after it crashed last night at around 8:30, I just walked away

17:34 * TheGasGiant imagines girls in skimpy underware having pillow fights...

17:34 <CoderForLife> here's a little synopsis of the NatGeo NORAD episode

17:34 <Romulus> Title: National Geographic Channel (at

17:35 <PovAddict> also my uncle asked me for some computer cleanup; he has a laptop with 256MB RAM and lots of stuff he doesn't use anymore that was starting on boot

17:36 * CoderForLife stands his house in profile to the storm

17:36 <TheGasGiant> is that an offshoot heading your way CFL?

17:38 <CoderForLife> I'm hoping the "e" in Kenwood slips south of me

17:39 <TheGasGiant> looks like it will...just

17:40 <CoderForLife> besides, from experience I trust the xcamel wx forecasts

17:40 <TheGasGiant> brb..kitteh feeding time / breakfast as well

17:40 <CoderForLife> hb

17:44 <TheGasGiant> b

17:44 <CoderForLife> (rumble)

17:45 * TheGasGiant is munching weetbix w other various cereals on top

17:45 <CoderForLife> that sounds so down-under

17:46 <TheGasGiant> breakfast cereal, the ultimate fast food (and cheap)

17:46 <CoderForLife> heavy rain

17:46 <TheGasGiant> don't put on your red shoes

17:47 <CoderForLife> that was "ruby" I believe

17:47 * CoderForLife studies ISO 639.2 language codes - that should keep him from flying away

17:48 <TheGasGiant> can't argue with that!

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17:50 <TheGasGiant> I see australia is easy

17:51 * TheGasGiant is interested to see how CFL codes for sign languages...

17:52 <CoderForLife> easy - ISO 639.2 code "sgn" - sign languages

17:52 <CoderForLife> done

17:52 <TheGasGiant> :p

17:52 <TheGasGiant> brb

17:52 <CoderForLife> I'm especially interested in Sindarin

17:53 <CoderForLife> and Klingon

17:53 <CoderForLife> and the Black Speech of Mordor

17:53 <CoderForLife> but I don't think Apache supports it

17:55 <PovAddict>

17:55 <Romulus> Title: Apache - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

17:55 <CoderForLife> although I see ISO 639.2 supports Apache - the American Indian version

17:55 <CoderForLife> thx PovAddict

17:56 <CoderForLife> yeah - that's the *other* Apache I referred to  =)

17:56 <PovAddict> :)

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18:00 <TheGasGiant> just a little yellow at your place CFL

18:02 <CoderForLife> that's me cowering under my desk

18:02 <CoderForLife> looks like about 125% relative humidity outside

18:03 <CoderForLife> the water can't stay in solution

18:03 <CoderForLife> it's precipitating out

18:03 <TheGasGiant> that's normally the case with rain

18:03 * CoderForLife takes notes

18:04 <CoderForLife> making a big boom sound makes it precipitate out faster

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18:05 * CoderForLife picks up the phone to call his attorney for a patent application

18:05 <TheGasGiant> i have noticed that....what comes first the rain falling from the sky (it just hasn't hit the ground yet) or the lightning from the differential in water movement and the big boom

18:05 <TheGasGiant> and then the torrential rain hits you

18:06 <CoderForLife> The Man In the Sky is a drummer

18:06 * CoderForLife goes to look up that movie

18:06 <CoderForLife>

18:06 <Romulus> <> (at

18:07 * TheGasGiant notes CFLs immense memory

18:07 <CoderForLife> now, where was I before all this storm excitement?

18:07 * TheGasGiant notes CFL is easily distracted

18:08 <CoderForLife> oh, yes, ISO 639.2

18:08 <CoderForLife> fascinating stuff

18:08 * TheGasGiant is enthralled

18:08 <CoderForLife> rather that than disemboweled

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18:09 <TheGasGiant> heading that way

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18:10 <CoderForLife_> yep - getting pretty fscking old

18:10 <TheGasGiant> hmmm...

18:11 <CoderForLife_> did you see:[18:08] CoderForLife: rather that than disemboweled

18:11 <CoderForLife_> [18:08] CoderForLife: pick the right surgeon

18:11 * TheGasGiant sees CFL being on hold for a loooooong time

18:11 <TheGasGiant> [08:08] <CoderForLife> rather that than disemboweled

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18:11 <TheGasGiant> [08:09] <TheGasGiant> heading that way

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18:11 <TheGasGiant> [08:10] <CoderForLife_> yep - getting pretty fscking old

18:12 <CoderForLife_> hmm

18:12 <CoderForLife_> [18:07] CoderForLife: oh, yes, ISO 639.2

18:12 <CoderForLife_> [18:08] CoderForLife: fascinating stuff

18:12 <CoderForLife_> [18:08] TheGasGiant is enthralled

18:12 <CoderForLife_> [18:08] CoderForLife: rather that than disemboweled

18:12 <CoderForLife_> [18:08] CoderForLife: pick the right surgeon

18:12 <CoderForLife_> only IRC dropped this time, it appears

18:12 <TheGasGiant> at least you're back online quickly

18:12 <PovAddict> ugh

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18:13 <PovAddict> I need some 10GB of RAM to serve as disk cache

18:13 <TheGasGiant> ugh

18:13 * CoderForLife_ checks his pockets

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18:13 * PovAddict hates I/O-bound processes

18:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CoderForLife

18:14 * TheGasGiant can donate 512MB of spare DDR RAM sitting on his desk...

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18:14 <CoderForLife> well - the next time this drops it'll stay that way for awhile

18:14 <PovAddict> working with 28.7mbits/s video

18:15 <TheGasGiant> OK..

18:15 <TheGasGiant> that's full hd vid?

18:15 <PovAddict> nope, 720x480 DV

18:16 <TheGasGiant> that seems like a lot of bandwidth for that quality

18:16 <PovAddict> I think frames are encoded individually

18:16 <TheGasGiant> oh

18:17 <PovAddict> which makes it easier to edit, since you can quickly move to any position in the video, and cut it without reencoding

18:17 <TheGasGiant> convert at the end though?

18:18 <PovAddict> yup, once I'm done it'll go to a plain old DVD

18:18 <TheGasGiant> encoding that will take some time

18:19 <PovAddict> the source video (8mm analog tape) has been in a box for like 10 years, I won't mind waiting days for encoding :)

18:19 <TheGasGiant> 16 frames/sec?

18:21 <PovAddict> seems NTSC - 29.97 frames/sec with that annoying crap called interlacing

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18:23 * TheGasGiant slaps forehead and realises it was video not film Pov was talking about

18:24 <PovAddict> indeed :)

18:24 <TheGasGiant> i've got some of those hanging about...

18:25 <PovAddict> my sister wants to separate the tapes into two groups

18:25 <PovAddict> before and after her existence

18:26 <TheGasGiant> how are you digitising it?

18:27 <PovAddict> borrowed camera + TV tuner card that also has an RCA video input

18:28 <TheGasGiant> the quality any good when bringing it in?  I've been meaning to do it and just haven't gotten around to doing it?

18:28 <TheGasGiant> .

18:29 <PovAddict> image quality seems pretty good, considering tape age

18:29 <PovAddict> the oldest tape (1992) has some trouble playing glitch-less in one go

18:30 <PovAddict> I record 15-30 minutes and the image goes all messed up, I suspect tape is dirty/humid and affects reading head

18:30 <TheGasGiant> i'm off Pov...time to hit the day

18:30 <PovAddict> playing one of the other tapes for a short while makes it start working again

18:30 <TheGasGiant> have a good night

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18:30 <PovAddict> I'm currently stitching the separately-recorded pieces on the computer :P

18:31 <PovAddict> TheGasGiant: g'night!

18:31 <TheGasGiant> that's the easy part!

18:31 <TheGasGiant> &cya

18:31 <Romulus> later ace

18:31 <efc> moo

18:31 <TheGasGiant> moo and bye :)

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