IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2010-11-15

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15:44 <xoomer> Good evening

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17:17 <matisse> hi

17:18 <matisse> can someone help me with boinc on debian?

17:18 <matisse> I have 24/7 machine running and want to use it for boinc

17:20 <matisse> I need to add an account: on ubuntu there was a wizard, but not for debian

17:20 <matisse> i'm using stable (lenny?)

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17:24 <matisse> anyone?

17:24 <matisse> boincmgr doesn't allow me to enter a account

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17:32 <matisse> so, an easy questioN:

17:32 <matisse> i aborted a task, does the server notice this so someone else can fullfil the task?

17:45 <matisse> or is this task lost?

17:49 <matisse> another easy question:

17:49 <matisse> is anyone reading the stuff I write?

17:50 <PovAddict> I am, but busy

17:50 <PovAddict> if you abort a task, next time your client contacts the server, it will tell the server that the task was aborted

17:51 <PovAddict> the server will then immediately create another instance of the task

17:52 <matisse> thx

17:53 <matisse> so hopefully 2 minutes of stable internet connection where enough

17:53 <matisse> *were

17:53 <matisse> :)

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18:04 <matisse> --create_account URL email passwd name   -  Create account with the given email address, password, and user name.

18:04 <matisse> what is URL?

18:05 <matisse> ( taken from man boinc_cmd )

18:05 <PovAddict> the project's URL

18:08 <matisse> thx

18:10 <matisse> An account is attached to a certain computer, so I cant use the email+passwd+nickname on another computer?

18:11 <PovAddict> you can attach any number of computers with the same account

18:13 <matisse> i always get authorization error: 155..

18:14 <PovAddict> &boincerr 155

18:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I couldn't find 155 in boincerr.

18:14 <PovAddict> &boincerr -155

18:14 <Romulus> PovAddict: authentication error

18:14 <matisse> for the options lookup-account, create, getstate...

18:14 <PovAddict> the problem is with boinccmd connecting to the client running on the same machine

18:15 <matisse> do I need to stop the client before i do boinccmd?

18:19 <matisse> yes, that did help: no i get different error messages

18:19 <matisse> *now

18:21 <matisse> this boinc client is totally buggy... i'll try compiling from source...

18:29 <matisse> now, i understand... boinc aint buggy :)

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18:41 <matisse> hmm

18:41 <matisse> the client is trying to do benchmark and then crashes

18:43 <matisse> http://pastebin.com/J83nzm19

18:43 <Romulus> Title: ~$ boinc_client 16-Nov-2010 0 - Anonymous - J83nzm19 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

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18:52 <PovAddict> you started the client in your home directory

18:52 <PovAddict> it probably put two dozen internal state files in there now, have fun cleaning :P

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18:53 <matisse> yeah, i got it working

18:55 <matisse> killing every boinc command did help

19:02 <matisse> this was f****g complicated... not everyone will work on those problems for so hours

19:02 <matisse> last question:

19:03 <matisse> how do I see the current working state of the daemon?

19:07 <matisse> well... the daemon not seems to be working (mostly 0% cpu usage)

19:07 <matisse> although >10% total cpu usage

19:08 <matisse> (seen on htop)

19:08 <PovAddict> maybe it's still downloading?

19:08 <matisse> how do I check that?

19:10 <matisse> boinc_cmd --get_state -> Authorization failure: -155

19:10 <PovAddict> didn't you successfully use boinccmd to attach the project already?

19:11 <matisse> i successfully attach the project

19:11 <matisse> and boinc_client did already work on it

19:12 <matisse> *attached

19:12 <matisse> the "authorization failure" appears because the daemon task is running as user "boinc" (and not root)

19:13 <PovAddict> it's not supposed to run as root

19:13 <PovAddict> if the boinc daemon runs as root, you're giving projects way too much access to your computer

19:13 <matisse> ok, but this auth stuff is blocking all efforts...

19:13 <matisse> yes, true

19:14 <PovAddict> try running boinccmd from the directory boinc is using to store its state

19:15 <matisse> yes, that did work... but no result

19:16 <matisse> http://pastebin.com/QKdV4icw

19:16 <Romulus> Title: /var/lib/boinc-client$ boinccm - Anonymous - QKdV4icw - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

19:16 <PovAddict> is /var/lib/boinc-client the directory your daemon is actually using right now?

19:17 <PovAddict> try --get_messages

19:18 <matisse> --get_messages seqno   Show messages with sequence numbers beyond seqno. <-- whats segno?

19:18 <PovAddict> ugh

19:18 <PovAddict> try --get_messages 0

19:18 <matisse> :)

19:18 <matisse> Data directory: /var/lib/boinc-client

19:19 <matisse> so

19:20 <matisse> I stopped the daemon and started boinc_client and now getting-state shows a lot info

19:22 <matisse> (even if I'm not in that dir

19:22 <matisse> )

19:23 <PovAddict> boinc_client *is* the daemon

19:24 <matisse> but the shell is blocked

19:24 <matisse> /etc/init.d/boinc-client   is the daemon in my opinion

19:25 <PovAddict> /etc/init.d/boinc-client is a script that runs boinc_client in the correct directory and under the correct user account

19:26 <matisse> ok, but

19:27 <matisse> /etc/init.d/boinc-client start    did result in any activity

19:28 <matisse> while typing boinc_client  and in another shell boinccmd --whatever does something

19:28 <PovAddict> typing boinc_client  and in another shell boinccmd from which directory?

19:29 <matisse> home? :)

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19:29 <PovAddict> then you're still littering your $HOME with BOINC's state

19:29 <matisse> i see...

19:30 <matisse> NOW i understand

19:30 <matisse> well... no

19:31 <matisse> I don't understand

19:31 <matisse> boinc_cmd --project http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ resume   -> connect: Connection refused   can't connect to local host

19:31 <Romulus> Title: Einstein@Home (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

19:31 <PovAddict> that sounds like the client isn't running at all

19:31 <PovAddict> anyway

19:31 <PovAddict> if you start boinc_client from $HOME, it will create its data files in $HOME

19:31 <PovAddict> and they will be separate from the ones in /var/lib/boinc-client

19:31 <matisse> hmm

19:32 <PovAddict> it will also think everything in your home directory is "disk usage by BOINC", so maybe it won't get work because it thinks it's using too much disk

19:34 <matisse> ah...

19:37 <matisse> AH...

19:37 <matisse> it works...

19:37 <matisse> once again :)

19:38 <matisse> but it doesnt listen to the suspend command...

19:38 <matisse> finally

19:39 <matisse> same error

19:39 <matisse> stopped the command line client

19:40 <matisse> started daemon (/etc/i...) and

19:40 <matisse> boinc_cmd --project http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/ resume   -> connect: Connection refused   can't connect to local host

19:40 <Romulus> Title: Einstein@Home (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

19:42 <PovAddict> "can't connect to local host" means daemon isn't running

19:43 <matisse> but why doesnt the daemon start with    /var/lib/boinc-client# /etc/init.d/boinc-client start  ?

19:43 <matisse> (or whatever directory)

19:43 <PovAddict> ls -l /var/lib/boinc-client → pastebin

19:44 <matisse> http://pastebin.com/fehbuMFB

19:44 <Romulus> Title: # ls -l /var/lib/boinc-client - Anonymous - fehbuMFB - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

19:44 <matisse> do you think there are some unfinished files?

19:47 <PovAddict> there's the problem: most files are owned by root (probably because at some point you ran boinc_client by hand as root), so the daemon can't write to them when started properly (under the boinc account)

19:47 <PovAddict> try deleting everything in /var/lib/boinc-client

19:48 <matisse> ahhhh

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19:52 <matisse> wb

19:52 <matisse> :)

19:52 <PovAddict> damn internets

19:53 <matisse> ~$ ps aux | grep boinc        ->  boinc   ... /usr/bin/boinc --check_all_logins --redirectio --dir /var/lib/boinc-client

19:54 <matisse> doesnt seem like itrs woreking

19:55 <matisse> i started it per root, because i wanted to see whats currently happening

19:56 <matisse> starting the daemon doesnt give me helpful info for debugging

19:57 <PovAddict> from /var/lib/boinc-client, can you now run boinccmd --get_state?

19:57 <matisse> yes

19:57 <matisse> no changes till now

19:57 <PovAddict> does the project appear there?

19:57 <matisse> yes

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19:58 <PovAddict> boinccmd --get_messages 0?

19:59 <matisse> ahh

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20:06 <matisse> can somebody povaddict that now everything seems to work... didnt delete every root-owned project files...

20:06 <matisse> thx

20:09 <matisse> bye

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21:08 <PovAddict> damn internets

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