IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2010-12-02

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04:22 <Megaf_> Hi folks, id like to have som help please

04:22 <Megaf_> Im member o the World Community Grid

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04:22 <Megaf_> and I have just installed teh BOINC client here

04:22 <Megaf_> how to setup it or configure it to login into the world comunity grid?

04:25 <Megaf_> Ah, well done :)

04:25 <Megaf_> thanks anyway :)

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06:15 <wdsmia_> &wx 50319

06:15 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 27.2F / -2.7C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries in the morning. High in the mid 30s. Southeast wind around 5 mph shifting to the northeast in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Low 15 to 20. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Friday (1 more message)

06:15 <wdsmia_> &more

06:15 <Romulus> wdsmia_: - Mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of snow in the afternoon. High in the lower 30s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.;

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17:46 <wdsmia> &quiet

17:46 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

18:07 <xcamel> indeed..

18:08 <xcamel> link to pictures yo would like:

18:08 <xcamel> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1334672/Jaw-dropping-image-enormous-supercell-cloud-Glasgow-Montana.html

18:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/33tfm29> (at www.dailymail.co.uk)

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21:21 <desti> Cape Canaveral, FL – On Friday, December 3rd, SpaceX will webcast its static fire test of the Falcon 9 rocket engines at www.spacex.com.

21:21 <desti> The webcast is set to begin at 8:00 AM Eastern/ 5:00 AM Pacific, with the actual static fire targeted for 9:00 AM Eastern/ 6:00 AM Pacific.

21:22 <PovAddict> Romulus needs a timezone conversion command

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21:56 <masterme120> Why do processes with the status "Ready to start

21:56 <masterme120> stay in ram?  sorry about the new line

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21:57 <PovAddict> in theory, process in "Ready to start" are those that weren't ever started yet

21:57 <PovAddict> so they don't "stay in ram", they weren't ever in ram

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21:57 <masterme120> but I look in the process table, and they're all there, using about 400 megs each

21:57 <PovAddict> do you have no running tasks shown in boinc manager?

21:58 <masterme120> i do, I have 6 running tasks, but 4 ready to start

21:59 <PovAddict> aren't those 6 running tasks the ones using RAM?

22:00 <masterme120> they are, but there are also 6 taskt notdoing, 0 cpu usage, but using about 10% of my ram, each

22:01 <PovAddict> what project?

22:01 <masterme120> rosetta@home

22:01 <masterme120> i also have climateprediction, but that one doesn't do it

22:02 <PovAddict> I think rosetta's app starts two processes, no idea why

22:02 <PovAddict> I also think the two processes share their memory, so it's not using twice the RAM than if it was only one

22:03 <masterme120> there's 8 total rosetta processes, 2 using cpu.  Boinc manager says 6 tasks, 2 running.

22:04 <PovAddict> I recall some project (maybe rosetta) showing as three processes per task, but not four...

22:04 <PovAddict> I got confused by: [23:58] <masterme120> i do, I have 6 running tasks, but 4 ready to start

22:04 <masterme120> here:http://pastebin.com/JLbLm0Fr

22:04 <Romulus> Title: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM (at pastebin.com)

22:04 <PovAddict> you have 6 *total*, not running; right?

22:04 <masterme120> yes

22:05 <PovAddict> try "ps f -u boinc"

22:06 <masterme120> http://pastebin.com/CeYxL7Bw

22:06 <Romulus> Title: PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1056 ? (at pastebin.com)

22:07 <PovAddict> yup, so rosetta has 4 running processes for each task, and climateprediction has 4 process per task

22:07 <PovAddict> note how boinc's direct child processes are only two for rosetta

22:07 <masterme120> http://i52.tinypic.com/2vkxr0z.jpg

22:08 <PovAddict> er

22:08 <PovAddict> climateprediction has 2 processes per task*

22:09 <masterme120> so I can't get around needing like 8 gigs of ram to run 6 tasks?

22:09 <PovAddict> like I said, those four processes are very likely using the *same* 400MB of RAM

22:13 <masterme120> then why do I keep running out of ram?

22:13 <PovAddict> how much RAM do you have?

22:13 <masterme120> 4gb

22:14 <PovAddict> if I'm right, there's 771MB used by Rosetta

22:14 <PovAddict> now check "top" for climateprediction RAM usage

22:14 <masterme120> that one uses almost nothing

22:14 <masterme120> that's why i use it

22:15 <PovAddict> really? climateprediction is historically quite heavy in RAM usage :P

22:15 <masterme120> less than 40 mb

22:15 <masterme120> each

22:16 <PovAddict> maybe you have BOINC configured to not use more than 2GB or something

22:16 <PovAddict> or 1GB

22:16 <PovAddict> so it often goes into "waiting for ram" even if you have plenty free

22:16 <masterme120> yeah, but i don't have plenty free

22:17 <masterme120> I have to leave now, maybe we can talk tomorrow

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