IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2011-01-28

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04:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 30.9F / -0.6C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 30s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Cloudy. Highs in the upper 30s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

04:46 <CoderForLife> &more

04:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 6:15 AM EST on January 28, 2011;

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06:21 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:21 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 19.7F / -6.8C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy until late afternoon then becoming mostly sunny. Areas of fog through mid morning. High in the upper 30s. Southwest wind near 5 mph increasing to south 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy (1 more message)

06:21 <wdsmia> &more

06:21 <Romulus> wdsmia: until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of light snow in the afternoon. High around 30. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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14:00 <shirish> hi all, my Debian box becomes pretty unresponsive while crunching with boinc, any idea how/what can I do to increase the responsiveness of the desktop and still have boinc crunch.

14:02 <PovAddict> don't use GPU computing?

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14:10 <shirish> back

14:11 <shirish> hi all, I am on debian and boinc renders my system unresponsive. Running on Intel integrated system, no gpu task nor any gpu available.

14:12 <shirish> can somebody help in making it more responsive.

14:13 <shirish> PovAddict: a while ago, you said something about gpu stuff, no gpu here, although do not know if the message was meant for me or somebody else.

14:13 <desti> swapping?

14:14 <shirish> desti:what are you saying about swapping? Have no idea. Please be more clear. I do know its something to do with memory but not much of an idea there.

14:15 <desti> do you have enough ram to prefend swapping?

14:15 <shirish> desti: what is 'prefend swapping' ?

14:15 <shirish> before I get further into it, does anybody know of a good CLI-based IRC client as well ?

14:16 <shirish> right now I'm on tinyirc and do not like it, very minimal functionality.

14:16 <PovAddict> irssi

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14:17 <shirish> PowAddict:thank you, installing it. I had used it couple of years ago, had just forgotten the name.

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14:18 <shirish> desti: I have 2 GB of DDR2 RAM.

14:18 <shirish> desti: do not know if that is enough for 'prefend swapping' or not.

14:19 <shirish> disconnecting, coming back via irssi

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14:21 <shirish> ah back and its looking much better

14:21 <shirish> PovAddict: and now tab completion also works.

14:21 <shirish> so what is prefend swapping and how do I enable it.

14:22 <PovAddict> I think he meant [16:15] <desti> do you have enough ram to prevent swapping?

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14:23 <shirish> PovAddict: dunno, is 2 GB RAM enough or not to prevent swapping, how can I know/figure out?

14:24 <PovAddict> that depends on whether you're doing anything that needs more than 2GB of RAM

14:24 <shirish> PovAddict: its a simple end-user desktop, browser, playing games, music and boinc, those are most of the activities

14:24 <PovAddict> no way for me to know

14:24 <shirish> PovAddict: so how to know/check it ?

14:25 <shirish> also does anybody how to use boinccmd to know what the latest entries in the logs are?

14:27 <shirish> discard that list bit, just found out boinccmd --get_messages

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14:30 <shirish> also do not think the memory is the culprit, think its the cpu, boinc is hogging almost 60-70 of CPU time/percentage.

14:30 <shirish> its a dual-core cpu

14:30 <PovAddict> the boinc daemon itself?

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14:34 <shirish> PovAddict: no, not the boinc daemon, the projects inside it.

14:34 <PovAddict> well of course, that's what BOINC is designed to do :P

14:35 <PovAddict> here it uses 99% of CPU time (unless one of my normal apps tries to use any CPU)

14:36 <shirish> PovAddict: that is understood, but what I want it to do is to be minimally invasive while other work is going on.

14:36 <PovAddict> well, BOINC apps are already at the lowest CPU priority they can be

14:37 <shirish> PovAddict: how can you be sure?

14:37 <shirish> PovAddict: or more correctly, how can *I* be sure.

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14:38 <PovAddict> run 'top', see if the CPU-eating boinc apps are in nice level 19?

14:40 <shirish> PovAddict: yup, boinc apps are at nice level 19

14:42 <shirish> PovAddict: can you help me in understanding this swapping memory thing then?

14:43 <shirish> PovAddict: Is there someway I can restrict the swappiness and if yes, how do I go about it ?

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14:54 <shirish> any weblink would also be good.

15:02 <shirish> PovAddict: does give any indication.

15:02 <Romulus> Title: total used free share - Shirish (at

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15:32 <shirish> just added a bit more swapspace as well as made vm.swapiness=10 from 60, either the combination of this or one of these helped the situation.

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15:32 <shirish> thank you guys.

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17:54 <Dre> hello everyone, anybody knows when we'll be getting new tasks from seti@home?

17:56 <efc3> Don't see any news on it

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17:58 <efc3> looks like everything is up

18:01 <Dre> @efc3: yes, it seems so, but it's been a while (months!!!) without any new task, all I get is the message "schedule request failed: HTTP internal server error"

18:03 <Dre> did you get any task recently?

18:04 <efc3> Oh yes, something else must be wrong then.

18:05 <efc3> Recent version of BOINC?

18:05 <efc3> (mine is 5/10/45 and still working)

18:05 <PovAddict> luddite

18:08 <Dre> 6.10.58

18:09 <Dre> @PovAddict: What?

18:09 <PovAddict> he's a luddite for still using 5.10.45 :P

18:10 <Dre> yes but it seems it works for him, so I lose 1-0

18:10 <Dre> ;P

18:11 <Dre> well, thanks both

18:11 <Dre> luckily the other projects are running fine

18:11 <efc3> I don'ty think its on your end

18:12 <Dre> neither do I, I "googled" it

18:12 <Dre> it must be a problem of their own

18:12 <efc3> have you done anything with app_info.xml?

18:12 <Dre> but I'm a bit dissapointed. I want to help.

18:13 <Dre> sorry, but I don't know what are you talking about, that's my level of noobeurism"

18:14 <efc3> Its a file in the BOINC install, apparently it may be a problem, they suggest renaming it

18:14 <efc3> For me it is here:  C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\

18:15 <Rookie_69> I've been here for years and I still don't know what they're talking about.

18:15 <efc3> usually it only gets tweaked to run customized version of the clients

18:15 <efc3> try renaming it (not_app_info.xml), see if that helps

18:16 <PovAddict> the file only exists if you added it here

18:16 <PovAddict> along with optimized binaries

18:16 <Dre> I think I found it

18:17 <Dre> what name do you suggest?

18:20 <efc3> Just anything else, so the program will not see it anymore

18:20 <efc3> rename instead of delete, so you can undo it if necessary

18:21 <Dre> ok

18:22 <efc3> after that, restart BOINC and see what happens

18:22 <Dre> .xml in the new name?

18:22 <Dre> ok

18:22 <efc3> It doesn't matter

18:22 <Dre> give me five minutes

18:23 <efc3> it doesn't sound like you would have messed with the file, but thats the only useful advice I see by googling

18:23 <efc3> Of course.. there's one there, so something happened.

18:23 <Dre> ok

18:24 <Dre> I'll come back in a blink

18:25 <efc3> I wish I had a normal network configuration :/

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18:31 <Dre> hello again

18:31 <xcamel> 'lo

18:31 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:35 <Dre> @efc3, PovAddict: it seems it's trying

18:35 <Dre> after the file renaming

18:35 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

18:35 <efc3> Good. I wonder what happened. Were you running optimized clients?

18:36 <Dre> ops, same error message again

18:36 <efc3> I don't know what actually goes wrong. That error message is not helpful.

18:36 <Dre> I know, I wish it where helpful

18:37 <Dre> well I'm going to put all my mental effort on passsing my exams, wish me luck

18:37 <Dre> good night to everybody

18:37 <efc3> Good luck, come back if it doesn't work.

18:37 <Dre> ok, thanks again folks

18:38 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:38 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 39.0F / 3.9C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. High in the lower 30s. North wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. Low 10 to 15. North wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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18:39 <wdsmia> heat wave

18:40 <efc3> Hope you didn't pack your swimsuit.

18:42 <xcamel> even we had a couple days above freezing..

18:44 <Rookie_69> We had a couple of really bitter days... Stop sending it my way!!!

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18:53 <xcamel> Wednesday will be 'Storm of the Week" again..

18:54 <wdsmia> we get it monday

18:56 <Rookie_69> Wednesday threatens us with a sprinkle of snow.

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19:08 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:08 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 26.8F / -2.9C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 60 percent chance of flurries early this evening. Low -7C(19F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods and 30 percent chance of flurries in the morning then sunny with cloudy periods. High -1C(30F). (1 more message)

19:09 <Rookie_69> &more

19:09 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Saturday night cloudy periods. Becoming clear overnight. Low -9C(15F).; Sunday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. High -2C(28F).;

19:30 <Tank_Master> &wx hio

19:30 <Tank_Master> &more

19:30 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

19:30 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 51F / 11C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows around 40. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph...becoming light wind after midnight. Rainfall amounts around a tenth of an inch.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Highs (1 more message)

19:30 <Tank_Master> &more

19:30 <Romulus> Tank_Master: around 50. South wind 5 to 10 mph. Rainfall amounts around a tenth of an inch.; Saturday Night - Cloudy with a chance of rain. Lows in the upper 30s. Light wind. Rainfall amounts less than a tenth of an inch.;

19:41 <CoderForLife> hmm?

19:42 <CoderForLife> did someone ask fo0r some bitter weather?

19:42 <CoderForLife> er for

19:42 * wdsmia throws CoderForLife back into the crevasse

19:43 <Rookie_69> I don't want any more.

19:43 <CoderForLife> next Tuesday/Wednesday is just about the most dire forecast I've seen in awhile

19:43 <efc3> &wx yakutsk

19:43 <Romulus> efc3: Temperature: -31F / -35C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h ; Unknown. High:-31 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:-38 F.; Chance of Snow. High:-23 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:-32 F.; Chance of Snow. High:-23 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:-38 F.;

19:43 <Rookie_69> Wednesday threatens us with a sprinkle of snow.

19:44 <CoderForLife> yatsuxs?

19:44 <efc3> Thats a warm day for them.

19:46 <CoderForLife> you been both of them?

19:46 <CoderForLife> population 2

19:47 <CoderForLife> chance of snow = nitrogen freezing out of the atmosphere

19:48 <efc3> Liquid nitrogen rain would be cool.

19:48 <CoderForLife> very cool - cold even

19:58 <Rookie_69> I said, I don't repeat myself... I mean Goodnight.

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