IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2011-04-15

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05:07 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:07 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 48.7F / 9.3C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tonight - Showers with a (1 more message)

05:09 <CoderForLife> &more

05:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Saturday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Breezy with highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

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12:43 <PovAddict> this channel is dying a slow death

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18:26 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 43.9F / 6.6C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 9.0mph / 14.5km/h ; Tonight - Light rain. Breezy. Low in the mid 30s. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Saturday - Cloudy with a slight chance of light rain and light snow through mid (1 more message)

18:26 <wdsmia> &more

18:26 <Romulus> wdsmia: morning...then partly sunny with a slight chance of light rain before noon. Mostly sunny in the afternoon. Windy. High in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 20 to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Low in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph through midnight.;

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18:31 <MZXGiant> Evening, all. Or the appropriate greeting for your respective /etc/timezone.

18:34 <MZXGiant> I snagged myself a copy of the latest server-release branch on BOINC and have a rather distressing issue. After running the configuration, getting everything to seemingly work, and creating a project, users cannot register. The manager app perpetually says there is a pre-existing user, and when trying to manually register from the project URL, I get an area saying 'venue does not have a default

18:34 <MZXGiant> value', which I would assume traces back to the SQL database. (Which, from the .sql files, does not in fact have a default value). However, there is no placeholder for 'venue' on the registration page and I don't see an appropriate place to set it, aside from manually modifying the SQL database.

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18:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 61.5F / 16.4C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Overnight - A chance of showers this evening...then showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 50s. Southeast winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Saturday - Cloudy. (1 more message)

18:46 <CoderForLife> &more

18:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Showers likely...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely in the evening. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

18:46 <CoderForLife> dang - sure would like to get a walk in tonight

18:47 <MZXGiant> Hmm, looks like server_stable and the newer svn both have this issue... assuming it is an issue and I'm not just a complete and total braindead moron...

18:47 <PovAddict> weird, since I think server_stable is fairly old by now

18:47 * CoderForLife looks at MZXGiant with a magnifying glass

18:47 <CoderForLife> you seem alive to me...

18:47 * MZXGiant is actually a dung beetle under close inspection

18:48 <MZXGiant> =P

18:48 <CoderForLife> heh

18:48 <PovAddict> yep, server_stable is 7 months old

18:48 <MZXGiant> I mean, I'd rather be using the newest version anyways... but I'm just not sure what's going on.

18:48 <PovAddict> so, weird

18:48 <MZXGiant> I just looked through the SQL files to make sure I'm not missing some "default" keyword around that column that just didn't process for some reason

18:48 <PovAddict> it sounds like a code bug, but someone must have noticed it in 7 months, so I guess it's not

18:49 <MZXGiant> but I don't see anything of that nature

18:49 <MZXGiant> Yeah =/

18:49 <PovAddict> brb phone

18:49 * MZXGiant wipes directories and re-pulls svn

18:54 * CoderForLife goes for a snack

18:54 <Rookie_69> codoreos?

18:56 <MZXGiant> Rooby Racks

18:58 <Rookie_69> Coder probably has a big bowl of something with a heart association warning on the side...

18:59 <MZXGiant> I didn't know they sold smokes in bowls now...

18:59 <MZXGiant> Or at least not that kind.

19:00 <MZXGiant> Man it is going to be a long night trying to figure this out

19:00 <MZXGiant> :<

19:01 <MZXGiant> I wonder if I'll be here until the BAS won't let me turn the lights on anymore

19:02 * PovAddict hasn't done BOINC stuff in a long time now

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19:03 <MZXGiant> =/

19:03 <MZXGiant> Ffuuu, still same issue.

19:03 <MZXGiant> I feel like I'm missing something simple here >:(

19:03 <PovAddict> mysql version?

19:04 <MZXGiant> I wouldn't be so worried about this except we're trying to gear up for some proteomics algorithms and I'm the given IT hound

19:04 <MZXGiant> Whatever the latest one on the debian squeeze tree is

19:04 <MZXGiant> lol

19:05 <MZXGiant> 5.0 my guess?

19:05 <MZXGiant> yeah, 5.1.49-3, according to the package repo

19:06 <MZXGiant> hrm

19:10 <MZXGiant> The only thing I can think of is that there's some XML configuration flag I'm missing for a default venue

19:10 <MZXGiant> but the weird thing is, if I override the SQL schema and manually add a default value, it complains that I'm not giving it a value for SETI ID or for posts

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19:41 <Rookie_69> nn.

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19:44 <MZXGiant> Heh, and here's an old prebuilt virtual machine that works great but is running a version of Debian from 2007...

19:49 <MZXGiant> there we go...

19:49 <MZXGiant> finally, some defaults, some sanity

19:50 <PovAddict> what did you do?

19:50 <MZXGiant> I found the old virtual machine build

19:50 <MZXGiant> and snapped on a SQL table viewer

19:50 <MZXGiant> and started looking at the differences in arch

19:50 <MZXGiant> the "venue" field has a default of "''" in the VM SQL

19:50 <MZXGiant> so I'm moving that over

19:50 <PovAddict> why isn't that in the schema? :/

19:51 <MZXGiant> I'm wondering whether it's a new thing with SQL actually

19:51 <MZXGiant> I seem to remember (and I could be wrong about this)

19:51 <MZXGiant> that if MySQL saw a NotNull value

19:51 <MZXGiant> and no value for it

19:51 <MZXGiant> it would use a default of '' for string

19:51 <MZXGiant> and 0 for int

19:51 <PovAddict> the problem was in the user.venue column?

19:51 <MZXGiant> Yeah, at least. I'm fixing that now and trying again

19:52 <MZXGiant> looks like there are 4 string defaults of ''

19:52 <MZXGiant> email_addr, venue, cross_project_id, and passwd_hash

19:52 <MZXGiant> yeah, it's gotta be something new with SQL 5 or somesuch nonsense

19:53 <MZXGiant> because now it's saying "posts" doesn't have a default value

19:55 <MZXGiant> Yeah

19:55 <MZXGiant> I started adding 0's as defaults for the int types

19:55 <MZXGiant> for the seti_ fields, has_profile, etc

19:55 <MZXGiant> Whoa, deja vu.

19:55 <MZXGiant> I feel like I've had this conversation with you before, heh

19:59 <PovAddict> got it

20:00 <PovAddict> "strict mode"

20:00 <PovAddict> "If you are not running in strict SQL mode, any column not explicitly given a value is set to its default (explicit or implicit) value"

20:00 <MZXGiant> Ah rock on

20:00 <MZXGiant> that's actually good to know

20:01 <MZXGiant> Must have been enterprise IT, "helping out" with our security...

20:01 <PovAddict> so looks like BOINC is incompatible with sql_mode='STRICT' or something

20:01 * MZXGiant turns off strict mode

20:07 <MZXGiant> Yeah, that fixed it.

20:07 <MZXGiant> I just disabled strict and cleared everything, and it all works right out of the box

20:08 <MZXGiant> See? Figured it'd be something braindead simple =D

20:12 <PovAddict> blarg, a kernel update available... I don't want to reboot :/

20:17 <Tank_Master> heh

20:18 <MZXGiant> Lights Out #1

20:18 * MZXGiant stands up in his cubicle and waves like an idiot

20:20 <PovAddict> :o

20:20 <PovAddict> wut

20:21 <MZXGiant> Building automation system turns off the lights on timers+sensors

20:21 <MZXGiant> but it only gives me so many times of "override" after hours

20:21 <MZXGiant> then it won't listen to me

20:21 <MZXGiant> and shuts off the lights and heat/AC

20:21 <MZXGiant> :(

20:21 <PovAddict> don't work after hours

20:21 <PovAddict> :P

20:21 <MZXGiant> That's my cue to go home. Or put on a coat/take off a layer

20:21 <MZXGiant> hah

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