IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2011-10-08

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21:01 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

21:01 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 74.1F / 23.4C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 50s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Sunny. High in the lower 80s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

21:01 <PovAddict> http://i.imgur.com/okfiv.png

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21:12 <razumikhin> &whatis platform_list

21:12 <Romulus> razumikhin: "platform_list" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

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21:16 <razumikhin> Any idea if BOINC (and client applications) will support GPU processing on Intel Graphics platforms anytime soon?

21:17 <PovAddict> I don't know if Intel graphics support general purpose processing

21:18 <razumikhin> there is reference on BOINC wiki that they can, but is not currently supported

21:18 <PovAddict> link?

21:22 <razumikhin> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing

21:22 <Romulus> Title: GPU computing - BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

22:00 <razumikhin> no ideas?

22:02 <PovAddict> developers barely talk of features they're currently working on, let alone plans for the future

22:03 <PovAddict> razumikhin: ask RomW_

22:04 <razumikhin> ok thanks

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23:33 <RomW> @Razumikhin, I haven't seen anything fron Intel describing a seperate SDK for GPU computing, at this point I'm assuming they are just going to support OpenCL.  If that is the case then the release currently in development is slated for OpenCL support.

23:33 <razumikhin> great! thanks that will be nice

23:34 <RomW> David and Charlie are in the process of helping PrimeGrid deploy an OpenCL app using the latest client software

23:34 <RomW> So we should start to see some results of the OpenCL work within a week or two.

23:35 <RomW> As far as when Intel will release their OpenCL user-mode driver, I have no idea...

23:36 <PovAddict> I wish OpenCL had appeared earlier

23:37 <PovAddict> so that you wouldn't have needed to bother with CUDA at all

23:38 <PovAddict> "In the 1980s, developing software that could function with a wide range of graphics hardware was a real challenge. Software developers wrote custom interfaces and drivers for each piece of hardware. This was expensive and resulted in much duplication of effort."

23:38 <PovAddict> until OpenGL arrived

23:38 <PovAddict> this is the same story with GPGPU:P

23:38 <desti_T2> opencl has too many limitations and is too slow to keep up with gpu development

23:39 <RomW> It is true for any technology in which one or more companies want to dominate through early adoption

23:39 <PovAddict> and in the end the standards-based tech still wins

23:40 <RomW> Not always, Windows and Office still dominate their markets

23:40 <efc> You know it took forever for OpenGL to have decent support.. and apparently it still is no trivial matter

23:40 <efc> wonder if openCL is similar

23:41 <PovAddict> well there isn't anything "standards-based" we can compare with Windows...

23:41 <RomW> Posix in general

23:41 <RomW> Posix vs. Win32

23:41 <efc> openGL had a lot of high end functions and i think the early 3d cards had trouble doing them all

23:42 <PovAddict> posix doesn't give GUI stuff

23:42 <PovAddict> there isn't any standard that gets close to the giant amount of functionality Windows APIs provide :P

23:42 <RomW> true

23:42 <RomW> MacOS X

23:42 <RomW> with the Cocoa APIs

23:42 <PovAddict> yeah, that's a pretty large alternative

23:43 <PovAddict> but it's still not something I'd call a "standard"

23:43 <RomW> lol

23:43 <PovAddict> Windows isn't dying anytime soon :)

23:43 <RomW> funny thing about standards, there are so many to choose from

23:44 <desti_T2> windows ends on 2012-12-21

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23:48 <RomW> Hmmmmm

23:49 <RomW> I think Microsoft's first attempt at a high performance graphics API was called WinG

23:49 <RomW> if I remember correctly

23:49 <RomW> DirectX came out a year or two later

23:49 <RomW> WinG was supported on Win16 and Win32

23:53 <RomW> Someday I'm going to have to figure out a way to forget a bunch of useless knowledge to make room for more new stuff

23:55 <efc> i think doom95 ran on that

23:56 <efc> not all that well

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