IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2011-11-02

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04:08 <quail> http://gallery.dale.id.au/albums/fauna/nature/bearded-dragon-lizard/

04:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3k9arl5> (at gallery.dale.id.au)

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09:58 <dp> I have a host set up to only run between 18:00 and 8:00. I assume that's local time, correct?

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10:37 <andax> dp: yes, time of your host

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12:03 <desti> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111102x1.html

12:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3szox5h> (at www.japantimes.co.jp)

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14:36 <Romulus> New news from boinc: Kevin Reed profiled on A Smarter Planet ~~ BOINC/Wordpress integration ~~ WCG/Harvard Clean Energy Project Video ~~ WCG targets Leishmaniasis ~~ BOINC-based computing at University of Westminster ~~ LHC@home 2.0 article in iSGTW ~~ BoincTasks version 1.16 released ~~ Clean Energy Project announces early results ~~ DistrRTgen ~~ LHC@home 2.0 begins public testing

14:44 <RomW> oooo signs of life

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15:55 <PovAddict> indeed

15:56 <PovAddict> website is alive

15:56 <PovAddict> including the forum

15:56 <PovAddict> not trac though

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18:40 <RomW> Working on it...

18:41 <RomW> Somebody thought it would be a good idea to update Trac and all the rest of the software at the same time

18:41 <RomW> ugh

18:41 <JaymesKeller> It broke?

18:42 <RomW> The RAID system corrupted itself and everything had to be restored from backup

18:42 <JaymesKeller> Ouch.

18:43 <RomW> The funny thing was the backup system server used throughout SSL suffered a malfunction of its own on the same day

18:43 <RomW> SSL finally got it back up and running this morning

18:44 <PovAddict> dude, Murphy has you on his list

18:44 <RomW> So....  I've been fighting Linux/Trac/PHP/Python/etc all day

18:44 <RomW> LOL

18:44 <RomW> Well more Matt and Jeff

18:44 <RomW> I'm 3000 miles away

18:45 <RomW> I had to only jump into action after they did all the stuff that required console access

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18:45 <Eron> hi all

18:46 <RomW> hi

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18:57 <JaymesKeller> Huh. it seems the SVN code doesn't like my version of the tools. I get a "undefined reference to `CBOINCBitmapComboBox::GetClientData(unsigned int) const'" error partway through building the GUI.

18:58 <RomW> BOINCBitmapComboBox.cpp is missing from Makefile.am in the clientgui directory

18:58 <JaymesKeller> Ah, I see.

18:58 <Eron> :)

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19:04 <JaymesKeller> Ah, that's stopped it moaning badly. Still throws warnings at me, but eh.

19:04 <PovAddict> RomW: any SVN data loss?

19:05 <RomW> Well, what is on the server is 3-4 days out of date, but my machine is up-to-date

19:05 <RomW> as soon as I get Trac squared away i'll bring SVN up-to-date

19:06 <RomW> Only got ahold of David 30 minutes ago to find out who had the most recent version of SVN

19:06 <PovAddict> well yeah, no code loss as you have an updated working copy

19:06 <PovAddict> but if there's any history loss, you'd have to commit again

19:07 <PovAddict> that could cause problems on people's working copies due to revision numbers going back, or revisions having different data than before

19:07 <RomW> yup

19:07 <PovAddict> you probably can't commit from your copy either

19:08 <RomW> Well, its going to be a process

19:08 <PovAddict> (gotta do a fresh checkout, copy in the changes, and commit from there)

19:08 <RomW> Copy working repo

19:09 <RomW> checkout fresh repo

19:09 <RomW> copy old repo over new repo sans the .svn directories

19:09 <RomW> commit

19:10 <PovAddict> this would have been easier with a dvcs... then again it'd have been easier with working recent server backups too :)

19:12 <JaymesKeller> Can't connect to localhost? Odd.

19:14 <JaymesKeller> Maybe it needs configuring somehow...

19:18 <JaymesKeller> Alright, I've hit a brick wall with the SVN build. The manager can't connect to the service, even though it's running. Where would the default data directory for it go?

19:18 <PovAddict> .

19:20 <RomW> Linux?

19:20 <JaymesKeller> Yeah

19:21 <PovAddict> current directory

19:21 <RomW> on Linux, boinc stores its files in the same directory you started it from

19:21 <JaymesKeller> What if it's being run as a service?

19:21 <JaymesKeller> In linux.

19:21 <RomW> boincmgr assumes it'll be started from the same directory

19:23 <JaymesKeller> Sounds like it'll be where the binary is, I'm guessing.

19:23 <RomW> yup

19:23 <RomW> I'm heading to dinner

19:23 <RomW> be back later tonight

19:25 <JaymesKeller> Ah, I see, chkconfig isn't listing it. Time to add it.

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19:27 <PovAddict> if it starts as a 'service', then whatever the service-launching script (init.d? upstart? whatever you use) sets as current directory

19:29 <JaymesKeller> I see it now. I've looked inside and it seems that it's using /var/lib/boinc

19:30 <JaymesKeller> Then my next question is why is it not being seen by the clients?

19:32 <JaymesKeller> Ah, I think an option wasn't set. Let's see if that works...

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19:58 <JaymesKeller> Okay, I've used root to establish the framework. Will it work now, I wonder...?

20:06 <JaymesKeller> Well, it works when I run it as root, but not in any other way, it seems.

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20:08 <JaymesKeller> Of course, I can chown the files I get from it to the user. ;)

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20:15 <JaymesKeller> Ah, it's only working when it's being run as root. That's not good.

20:18 <JaymesKeller> Anyone got any ideas on why the systemctl script isn't working?

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20:55 <desti> http://i.imgur.com/UO80H.jpg

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21:03 <JaymesKeller> Hi all, I bring some good news. my system was as lazy as anything, so I used the init.d script from the RPM. It works! :)

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22:58 <desti> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15562928

22:58 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6e2azxd> (at www.bbc.co.uk)

23:46 <Romulus> New news from boinc: Unplanned server outage

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