IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2011-11-03

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03:32 <Chacious> hello

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03:51 <Chacious> wow i realised why i wasnt seeing any statistics for my windows machine

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03:54 <Chacious> and boy do i feel stupid

03:56 <efc> not running?

03:56 <Chacious> no thats the thing i knew it was running

03:56 <Chacious> than i was looking through the websites preferences

03:57 <Chacious> so i looked through my windows based settings on boinc and loe and behold, it was set to report every 10 days :(

03:57 <Chacious> doh!

03:57 <Chacious> wow big noobles mistake

04:01 <Chacious> is there a way to force it to manually report in?

04:04 <Chacious> so if i understand right how it validates compared to another person running boinc before it lets them have credit *or porject how ever it is* i have been delaying someone else from getting credits also

04:04 <Chacious> that sucks

04:05 <Chacious> if you go to projects in boinc, click the project you can click update and it will report all your findings

04:10 <Chacious> you wont lose your current project progress what you have crunched on a task so far, if you update the aplpication will you?

04:55 <efc> sorry, been away

04:56 <efc> yes i think if you click on update project it will do server communications, get new work, report etc, won't lose anything

04:56 <efc> i think the unvalidated work is called "pending" credit

04:56 <efc> probably depends on the server how long that takes, how many people have to run the same work, etc

04:57 <efc> err dependson the project i mean

04:57 <Chacious> k

04:57 <Chacious> i never knew it compares multiple ones doing the same one but it does make sense, in case of errors and such

04:59 <efc> since a lot of projects are open, have to guard against junk results

04:59 <efc> Zzzzz

05:01 <Chacious> anyone ever mess around with orbiter?

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11:41 <JaymesKeller> Hi all, quick question, is it possible to compile the SVN code into x64 mode?

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11:53 <JaymesKeller> And SVN is sulking. Last time, it was due to a missing entry, now I get "/usr/bin/ld: boinc_client-hostinfo_unix.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XOpenDisplay'" Is there something wrong with the SVN or is it my system?

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13:28 <JaymesKeller> Okay, does anyone know how to fix this? "/usr/bin/ld: boinc_client-hostinfo_unix.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XOpenDisplay'" in SVN?

13:30 <JaymesKeller> Or would it be easier just to use the prebuilt binaries?

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16:08 <Chacious> hi

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16:09 <MTughan> So I've got a bit of an odd issue here... Work requests and submits to PG don't seem to be going through.

16:10 <MTughan> I checked what was going on with http_debug and http_xfer_debug, and it looks like BOINC's sending the request, but doesn't receive a response back from the server. A request to the notices page goes through no problem, so it's not a problem with contacting PG.

16:10 <Chacious> is that the only project that it's happening with?

16:10 <MTughan> Yes, WCG works fine.

16:11 <MTughan> I've posted to the PG boards, but it seems I'm only one of two people experiencing problems, so I don't think it's a project-wide problem.

16:11 <Chacious> is there anything on the "notes" to suggest its down? or the project website?

16:12 <Chacious> O

16:12 <MTughan> http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3715

16:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6gqqzzh> (at www.primegrid.com)

16:12 <MTughan> That has logs and a bit more text from me. The logs are from last night, but it's been happening still.

16:13 <Chacious> have you tried rebooting your system?

16:13 <Chacious> or "forcing" an update

16:14 <MTughan> Not yet. I've tried forcing an update and rebooting the CC and manager.

16:14 <RomW> What version of BOINC?

16:14 <Romulus> hmm... What version of BOINC are you using, RomW

16:14 <MTughan> RomW: 6.12.34

16:14 <Chacious> RomW,  will probably be much more help than me hehe

16:14 <MTughan> Probably. :P

16:14 <RomW> Hmmmmm

16:15 <MTughan> Windows 7 SP1, x86_64.

16:15 <RomW> PG and E@H are kind of in a race to deploy OpenCL apps

16:15 <RomW> I wonder if it is related to the OpenCL work

16:15 <MTughan> Hmm, could be.

16:15 <RomW> Could you try .42?

16:15 <MTughan> I've been running ATI Stream apps for a couple weeks now with no problems.

16:15 <MTughan> Yeah, give me a minute...

16:16 <MTughan> 6.12.42?

16:16 <RomW> yeah

16:16 <MTughan> I only see up to .41.

16:16 <RomW> hmmmm

16:16 <RomW> okay, .41 then

16:17 <RomW> looks like i haven't built .42 yet

16:17 <RomW> lol

16:18 <MTughan> I had more a problem a couple days ago relating to a reinstall of Windows I had to do. That turned out to be messed up permissions throughout ProgramData\BOINC. PG was fetching new tasks fine afterwards though.

16:20 <MTughan> .41 is waiting on 100--continue again.

16:20 <MTughan> So that didn't fix it.

16:20 <RomW> hmmmm

16:21 <RomW> Does it ever come back?

16:21 <MTughan> After 5 minutes, when it times out.

16:21 <RomW> This is kind of reminding me like a scheduler SIGSEGV

16:22 <RomW> I guess I'll ping Rytis and see what is up

16:23 <MTughan> Thanks.

16:23 <MTughan> If he needs it, my user ID is 20194. I can give my email address too.

16:24 <MTughan> Just tell him to hurry up, as tasks are starting to expire on me. I've only had one half-hour task time out at this point, but I've got a 9 hour task that will expire in about 36 hours.

16:24 <RomW> Might take longer than that...  He hasn't responded to an email I sent a week ago...

16:24 <RomW> :)

16:24 <MTughan> Ouch.

16:25 <RomW> It is vacation season in Europe

16:25 <MTughan> After that, there are a bunch that expire on the 7th.

16:26 <MTughan> Actually, I can pin down a time somewhat... PG says my last contact time was just under 2 days ago; 47 hours to be exact.

16:26 <MTughan> If that helps him at all.

16:27 <MTughan> Anyway, I have to restart for some updates... bbiab.

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16:31 <MTughan> Just checked to be sure, still not fixed after a restart.

16:33 <MTughan> And you bugger... Windows wants to install more updates now. >_>

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17:05 <MTughan> whynot: Why not indeed?

17:25 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

17:27 * PovAddict hasn't spoken to Rytis in a long time, wow

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17:30 <clustermagnet> guys, havent touched boinc in a while….

17:30 <clustermagnet> can someone please point me to a wiki page where i can get some quick cli way to launch boinc client and join to my account?

17:30 <clustermagnet> i have some hardware , where i wouldnt mind pushing boinc client via puppet/chef :)

17:31 <clustermagnet> thx

17:31 <clustermagnet> anything other than this:?

17:31 <clustermagnet> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool

17:31 <Romulus> Title: Boinccmd tool - BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:31 <yoyo[RKN]> on which operating system?

17:32 <clustermagnet> yoyo[RKN]:  both intel and sparc hardware

17:32 <clustermagnet> linux/sun

17:32 <yoyo[RKN]> just install boinc

17:32 <yoyo[RKN]> run only the client with run_client

17:32 <yoyo[RKN]> and control it with boinccmd

17:33 <clustermagnet> yoyo[RKN]:  you've not tried pushing this with puppet, have you?

17:33 <yoyo[RKN]> no, what is puppet

17:33 <clustermagnet> http://puppetlabs.com/

17:33 <Romulus> Title: Puppet Labs: The Leading IT Automation Software Solution (at puppetlabs.com)

17:34 <clustermagnet> ie, pushing boinc to 100 servers

17:34 <yoyo[RKN]> I did the following with an old 5.x version

17:34 <yoyo[RKN]> I installed this on some directory

17:35 <PovAddict> the client itself also has a switch to attach to a project; do *not* use that, it's a debugging feature... IIRC it doesn't quite behave as one would expect, but I don't remember details

17:35 <RomW> If all 100 servers are going to be attached to the same projects you can cheat a little bit

17:35 <yoyo[RKN]> and copied this folder to the target system

17:35 <clustermagnet> doh, nah

17:35 <clustermagnet> uhm

17:35 <PovAddict> well it's probably a bad idea to copy client_state between computers

17:35 <RomW> download and setup boinc as yoyo suggested on one system

17:35 <clustermagnet> boinc clients, do they check with online managers for work?

17:35 <clustermagnet> or can they look at a local file?

17:36 <PovAddict> but you can copy the account_* files to attach to the same projects

17:36 <RomW> and then build a deployment package that includes boinc and all the account_*.xml files.

17:36 <PovAddict> or the account manager account file, if you're using one

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17:37 <RomW> Copying client_state.xml between hosts is a bad idea

17:40 <clustermagnet> RomW:  ok :)  thanks

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18:39 <PovAddict> blargh

18:40 <PovAddict> Trac changed into Spanish for me

18:40 <PovAddict> so it flooded my RSS reader with a million new items, which are just like the old ones just with spanish descriptions

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19:25 <RomW> Welcome to Trac 0.12.2

19:27 <PovAddict> guess someone never heard of unique identifiers in RSS

19:28 <PovAddict> oh wait, they *are* using GUIDs... maybe they changed? :/

19:28 <RomW> <shrug>

19:29 <PovAddict> I had thousands of unread items in that feed anyway

19:29 <PovAddict> :P

19:29 <RomW> lol

19:30 <PovAddict> if you see me commenting on 3-month-old commits, it means I suddenly got time to go through the queue

19:30 <RomW> Welp, I'm almost done with my revised GUI RPC library...  I managed to get the XML parser speed up to 9x faster than the stock BOINC XML parser...

19:31 <RomW> That should cover the cost of the multi-threaded synchronization overhead and then sum

19:31 <PovAddict> nice

19:31 <PovAddict> speaking of speed, did you know strip_whitespace is O(n²) ? :)

19:32 <RomW> chuckle, take it up with David...

19:33 <RomW> Took me long enough to get the GUI RPC library revamped though

19:33 <RomW> ROFLMAO

19:33 <RomW> two years

19:33 <RomW> I wonder how long until I have a new GUI done

19:33 <PovAddict> at least you eventually did it

19:34 <RomW> lol

19:34 * PovAddict purchases http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/generic/8bad/

19:34 <RomW> Yaeh, I suppose...  I thought I would have had more free time to work on it...

19:35 <RomW> Got tired of keeping the documentation in sync with implementation

19:35 <RomW> oh well

19:42 <RomW> nice shirt

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19:45 <RomW> It turns out that treating BOINC XML as chunks that can be broken up into dictionary name/value pairs works really well

19:55 <RomW> The other major perf increase came from dividing the dictionary into 32 bit buckets and then using the mod of the middle character in the name field as the key to which bit bucket to store the name/value pair in

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