IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2011-11-04

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00:21 <Guest95502> Hi

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00:22 <WCG_User> Overclocked Vistiontek HD2600 PRO AGP  to chip in

00:22 <WCG_User> But GPU usage is zero . . .

00:23 <WCG_User> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/GPU_computing

00:23 <Romulus> Title: GPU computing - BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

00:23 <WCG_User> Says that I should have a ATI R600 GPU which should work

00:24 <WCG_User> But I am using the WCG BOINC software not pure BOINC>

00:24 <WCG_User> I was wondering if anyone knew if I could use pure BOINC with the WCG projects.

00:24 <WCG_User> It is a newer version of BOINC than comes with the WCG

00:25 <PovAddict> the WCG client is basically BOINC with a rename and a custom skin for the simple GUI

00:26 <WCG_User> Ok so if I have WCG installed and I DL and install a new BOINC what will happen?

00:28 <WCG_User> Am I going to have to be the guinea pig on this one?

00:28 <PovAddict> hmm good question

00:28 <PovAddict> I think you should uninstall the WCG one first to be safe

00:28 <WCG_User> But I'd like to keep WCG though.

00:29 <WCG_User> Or at least still participate in the WCG projects, monitor and select them from WCG.com, and track my performance at WCG.com

00:29 <PovAddict> the BOINC software is compatible, but I'm not sure if the installer does the right things in that particular upgrade

00:29 <PovAddict> well just attach ti the wcg project from boinc

00:29 <PovAddict> to*

00:29 <WCG_User> OH so you can do that?

00:29 <WCG_User> Cool

00:30 <WCG_User> I guess I will try it.

00:30 <PovAddict> WCG is just one of many BOINC projects that the client can attach to

00:30 <WCG_User> Problem is I have a task at 39% with 13 hours to go.

00:30 <PovAddict> yeah, like I said the client will work just fine

00:31 <WCG_User> So BOINC can attach to anything that WCG has an then some basically . . .

00:31 <PovAddict> the only thing I wasn't sure about is the *installer*, when "upgrading" from the WCG-branded BOINC to a newer unbranded BOINC

00:31 <WCG_User> Thats fine I can unistall first.

00:32 <WCG_User> From boinc do I still get to monitor my projects on WCG.com and track my progress there?

00:32 <WCG_User> They ahve some active account pages which let you control your client from their web page basically.

00:34 <PovAddict> I haven't seen the WCG website at all in a long time; but the WCG BOINC client only has branding changes, it doesn't have any special reporting-stuff-to-server that isn't in the normal client

00:34 <WCG_User> Ok cool.

00:35 <WCG_User> I'm going to try it.  Is there any way to save the current job on an install?

00:35 <WCG_User> Its at 39%

00:35 <WCG_User> If so I can let you know if it worked . .

00:36 <WCG_User> Running my SL7PN overclocked too at 100% and 69deg C

00:36 <WCG_User> The CPU was only 13 bucks so I may as well run it hard. . .

00:37 <PovAddict> I think uninstall won't delete that, so you won't lose the work in progress (as long as both vanilla-BOINC and WCG-BOINC use the same directory to keep their stuff; not sure if they do)

00:37 <WCG_User> Ok lets give it a shot then. . .

00:37 <PovAddict> so let me know how *that* part goes too :P

00:37 <WCG_User> where does BOINC keep it at?

00:37 * PovAddict goes to sleep now

00:38 <WCG_User> I found some stuff here: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC\projects\www.worldcommunitygrid.org

00:39 <PovAddict> awesome, it does use the same dir then

00:39 * PovAddict really gone

00:39 <WCG_User> Ok here goes . . . Checkpointing and shutting down.

00:46 <WCG_User> got to reboot BRB

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00:54 <WCG_User> Hey it worked.  It picked up processing where I left off.

00:54 <WCG_User> I didn't have to do anything but install.

00:55 <WCG_User> It automatically found the project, and its current jobs, attached, and started running at 40%

00:59 <WCG_User> I think my problem though is that none of the WCG apps utilize GPU . . .

01:20 <WCG_User> http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=330

01:20 <Romulus> Title: combining gpugrid and world community grid (5.10 client) (at www.gpugrid.net)

01:21 <WCG_User> Thanks romulus, very helpful robot for a change.

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12:41 <Chacious> hey fellow boincinites

12:42 <Chacious> k, that sounded weirder than ubuntu-ites

13:09 <Chacious> is there any way to let boinc auto-update?

13:09 <Chacious> or to start an update through the app in windows

13:10 <Chacious> Iv'e installed boinc and ive uninstalled boinc, I dont need to uninstall the previous version do i?

13:10 <Chacious> jus curious so i can get a "graceful" update and not lose any progress on tasks currently crunching

13:11 <desti> if you haven't put it into different dirs

13:11 <Chacious> I use the recommended settings with program directories

13:11 <PovAddict> the installer will upgrade an existing installation and won't lose progress on tasks, as long as the tasks have checkpointing

13:12 <PovAddict> when upgrading, it has to stop BOINC, install the new version, and restart it

13:12 <Chacious> k, should i exit the current version? or suspend the projects before hand?

13:12 <PovAddict> it should Just Work(tm)

13:12 <PovAddict> and if it doesn't, we want to know about it as it'd be a bug :)

13:13 <Chacious> so i jus leave it crunching, hit the install and it should do everything itself?

13:13 <PovAddict> in theory, yes...

13:13 <Chacious> k, jus making sure, I like to be sure :)

13:14 <Chacious> I'll let you know if something goes wrong

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13:14 <Chacious> gotta update my ubuntu boinc as well i believe

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13:40 <desti> http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2011/11/201111402622633852.html

13:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5rr88g4> (at english.aljazeera.net)

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13:43 <Chacious> gotta reboot

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15:56 <Chacious> just downloaded the latest boinc linux files

15:57 <Chacious> I dont want to lose any progress written to disk on tasks, however I had an old version that i got from using apt-get and they havnt updated their version to the latest, how would i go about keeping my progress?

16:01 <PovAddict> from the point of view of the distro, binaries you download from the boinc website are not 'supported'

16:02 <PovAddict> and maybe from the point of view of berkeley, distro packages are not supported

16:02 <PovAddict> as for me, I have a pile of homework to do so I can't give support :p

16:03 <Chacious> so if i do an "update" command from the gui manager will that save my progress to the servers so that when i get back up and running I wont lose "task" progress?

16:04 <Chacious> aka when the "unsupported" version is installed

16:04 <PovAddict> no, intermediate state is not sent to servers

16:05 <PovAddict> for many projects it could be a few GBs :P

16:06 <Chacious> really?

16:06 <PovAddict> why don't you first empty your queue? set 'no new work', wait until all tasks are finished and uploaded to the project server, then 'upgrade'

16:06 <Chacious> wow

16:06 <Chacious> ya thats an option

16:06 <Chacious> where would i put this new version

16:07 <Chacious> running the .sh sciprt puts it in a folder in my downloads, just havnt found the old versions foldet "yet"

16:07 <PovAddict> make a 'boinc' directory in your $HOME or something

16:08 <Chacious> I assume it doesnt automatically make itself a demon where it starts when the system reboots right?

16:08 <Chacious> i didnt think it would when i installed it with sudo apjt-get install but it did

16:09 <PovAddict> no, making a daemon that starts on boot is done by distros when they make the distro-specific package

16:09 <Chacious> thaks for ahl your help!!

16:09 <Chacious> thanks*

16:10 <PovAddict> if you want system integration you get the package from your system integrator, go figure :)

16:10 <Chacious> true

16:11 <PovAddict> off to do that homework >.>

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19:12 <CoderForLife> hmm

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19:39 <JaymesKeller> Hi all, I'm getting this error when trying to compile from SVN "/usr/bin/ld: boinc_client-hostinfo_unix.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XOpenDisplay'" I think I've fixed this before, but I've forgot what I did.

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20:11 <desti> http://i.imgur.com/bf1gP.jpg

20:12 <PovAddict> my internet sucks today

20:13 <desti> my internet sucks not only today

20:17 <CoderForLife> &wx internet

20:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

20:17 <CoderForLife> as I expected from the previous comments

20:18 <JaymesKeller> So, what you're saying is that theists enjoy killing themselves by nuclear weapons?

20:20 <JaymesKeller> And what does it have to do with BOINC?

20:22 <JaymesKeller> Besides which, "XOpenDisplay" is giving me grief with SVN building again.

20:51 <PovAddict> JaymesKeller: *sometimes* desti posts a link that is on-topic for the current discussion

20:51 <PovAddict> JaymesKeller: this wasn't one of those cases

20:59 <JaymesKeller> I see.

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21:01 <JaymesKeller> Well, this is embarassing. I messed a *-devel package out.

21:01 <JaymesKeller> *missed

21:01 <PovAddict> that's a BOINC bug then

21:01 <PovAddict> if you're missing a -devel package, it should tell you when you ./configure, not fail during the actual build

21:02 <JaymesKeller> Mind you, it was for the manager, so that was why it didn't build it.

21:02 <PovAddict> hm

21:02 <JaymesKeller> If it was a lib, then it would be worrying.

21:03 <PovAddict> X is marked as a manager-only dependency and then used by the client?

21:03 <JaymesKeller> And I discovered a fix for the problem I had. -lX11 was missing from client's Makefile.

21:05 <JaymesKeller> When I added that to LD_FLAGS, it works.

21:06 <JaymesKeller> Also, it was wxGTK that was missing, with regards to the manager.

21:06 <JaymesKeller> Alright, it's working now.

21:12 <JaymesKeller> There we go, a bit of shaking it about some, and it's working as expected.

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21:43 <CoderForLife> gn all

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