IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2012-04-28

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15:47 <jobermayr__> What must I do to make boinc working on 2nd computer behind a firewall (router)?

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16:13 <PovAddict> um, nothing?

16:13 <PovAddict> if you can browse the web you can use BOINC

16:13 <PovAddict> all connections are outgoing

16:26 <jobermayr__> PovAddict: For 1st one I had to forward 31416 (internal) -> 31416 (private). I tried it with 31415 -> 31416 for the 2nd one but this does not work.

16:28 <PovAddict> 31416 is used for the GUI to talk to the core daemon, that communication happens 100% within the same computer, you might need to unblock the port on a software firewall on the computer but definitely not forward it on a router

16:30 <jobermayr__> How do you explain that boincmgr didn't work until I opened 31416 on my router? Software firewall has been always disabled ...

16:33 <PovAddict> that's supposed to work even if your computer is disconnected from the router

16:34 <PovAddict> unless you're controlling boinc remotely from a boincmgr on a different computer

16:45 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

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23:49 <PovAddict> 'It looks like BOINC doesn't use any peer review. I cannot imagine that kind of code passing a peer review, assuming the reviewer has a clue.'

23:50 <efc> Vee need more paperverk

23:51 <PovAddict> paperwork?

23:52 <efc> Aye

23:52 <PovAddict> note that he's talking of informal reviews from other developers (which are very useful and BOINC indeed lacks), not Scientific Peer-Reviewed Publications

23:53 <PovAddict> I really don't understand the BOINC dev community anymore

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23:54 <efc> right

23:54 <efc> the code I read, long ago, was pretty hard to understand

23:54 <efc> at minimum its nice to mark units on variables. I had a hard time figuring those out.

23:54 <efc> you'd think the sciency-types would do that.

23:55 <PovAddict> especially after the imperial vs metric NASA incident!

23:56 <efc> in physics labs we'd get marked down a lot if we left units off anything

23:56 <PovAddict> anyway, this is the kind of thing where I think there's two levels of enlightenment

23:57 <PovAddict> 1. labeling variables so that the programmer always knows what's the unit of the numeric values in them

23:58 <PovAddict> 2. labeling types so that the compiler always knows what's the unit of the numeric values in them and doesn't *let* you mix units

23:59 <efc> Right.. I use Ada, its big on #2. Kind of a pain in the ass sometimes.

23:59 <efc> you end up having to cast a lot, and thats where a lot of errors creep in

23:59 <PovAddict> it's not too hard to make DataAmount/Time evaluate to a DataRate type in C++

23:59 <efc> but its better, i think

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