IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2012-11-13

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04:45 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:45 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 29°F / -1.7°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 1mph / 1.6km/h ; Tuesday - Clear. High of 45F. Winds from the WNW at 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Clear. Low of 27F. Winds less than 5 mph.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy. High of 46F. Winds from the ENE at 5 to 10 mph.;

04:45 <CoderForLife> quite a change from the weekend

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13:36 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

13:36 <yoyo[RKN]> where is the content encoding (UTF8) set for the boinc webpages?

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> e.g. the japanese version of http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/apps.php doesn't send the content-encoding: utf8

13:45 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at www.rnaworld.de)

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> but the german version does

13:45 <PovAddict> the language file is supposed to set its encoding

13:46 <PovAddict> at this point everything should use utf8 ideally

13:47 <yoyo[RKN]> I have 2 ja.po

13:47 <yoyo[RKN]> one in languages/translations and one on languages/project_specific_translations

13:48 <yoyo[RKN]> and a compiled one

13:48 <PovAddict> search for encoding in the first one

13:49 <yoyo[RKN]> looks ok:

13:49 <yoyo[RKN]> "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\n"

13:49 <yoyo[RKN]> "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"

13:49 <PovAddict> nope

13:49 <PovAddict> it's a string like the others

13:49 <valer> That page you linked shows as Latin-1 to me.

13:49 <PovAddict> probably all-oppercase

13:49 <PovAddict> the msgid is all-uppercase I mean

13:50 <yoyo[RKN]> valer switch to japanese

13:51 <PovAddict> ah I see that's not used anymore

13:51 <PovAddict> the CHARSET msgid

13:52 <yoyo[RKN]> I get this http header in japanese language

13:52 <yoyo[RKN]> Content-Typetext/html

13:52 <yoyo[RKN]> in the german version I get also the encoding

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13:53 <yoyo[RKN]> Content-Typetext/html; charset=UTF-8

13:54 <valer> Yes, the other languages lack the charser.

13:54 <PovAddict> only 'de' shows a charset actually

13:54 <PovAddict> no, not only de

13:54 <PovAddict> but it's inconsistent

13:54 <PovAddict> hm

13:55 * yoyo[RKN] cooks some coffee, brb

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13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> back

13:58 <PovAddict> I see nothing :/

13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> so the question is where it is set

13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> You don't see what? my coffee ;)

13:58 <PovAddict> I can't find anything that could cause this problem

13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> :D

13:59 <valer> In some languages you can save a little bandwidth using UTF-16 but the server should probably use ZIP compression anyway.

14:00 <yoyo[RKN]> can this somehow be set in some php.ini file?

14:02 <PovAddict> do you have a customized page_head?

14:02 <yoyo[RKN]> don't know, where could I customize it?

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14:03 <PovAddict> in your project.inc

14:04 <yoyo[RKN]> no, no customized page_head

14:05 <PovAddict> hm, apps.php doesn't even do caching

14:05 <PovAddict> I'm out of ideas

14:06 <yoyo[RKN]> my source code is old

14:07 <PovAddict> oh, could've said that >.>

14:07 <PovAddict> how old?

14:07 <Romulus> Rumor has it how old is that, PovAddict

14:07 <PovAddict> shutup Rommie

14:07 <yoyo[RKN]> 3 years

14:07 <PovAddict> really?

14:07 <PovAddict> got a svn revision number?

14:10 <yoyo[RKN]> 19662

14:11 <PovAddict> trunk?

14:11 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

14:12 <PovAddict> yeah, pretty different story back then

14:12 <yoyo[RKN]> $charset = tra("CHARSET");

14:12 <yoyo[RKN]> if ($charset != "CHARSET") {

14:12 <yoyo[RKN]> header("Content-type: text/html; charset=$charset");

14:12 <yoyo[RKN]> }

14:12 <PovAddict> search for CHARSET in de.po and ja.po

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14:14 <yoyo[RKN]> translations/de.po:#~ msgid "CHARSET"

14:14 <yoyo[RKN]> translations/ja.po:#~ msgid "CHARSET"

14:15 <yoyo[RKN]> but

14:15 <yoyo[RKN]> project_specific_translations/de.po:msgid "CHARSET"

14:15 <PovAddict> use grep -A1

14:15 <yoyo[RKN]> project_specific_translations/ja.po:msgid "CHARSET"

14:16 <yoyo[RKN]> it is in comments here

14:16 <yoyo[RKN]> translations/de.po:#~ msgid "CHARSET"

14:16 <yoyo[RKN]> translations/de.po-#~ msgstr "UTF-8"

14:16 <yoyo[RKN]> --

14:16 <yoyo[RKN]> translations/ja.po:#~ msgid "CHARSET"

14:16 <yoyo[RKN]> translations/ja.po-#~ msgstr "UTF-8"

14:16 <PovAddict> and in specific?

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> project_specific_translations/de.po:msgid "CHARSET"

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> project_specific_translations/de.po-msgstr "UTF-8"

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> --

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> project_specific_translations/ja.po:msgid "CHARSET"

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> project_specific_translations/ja.po:msgstr "CHARSET"

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

14:17 <PovAddict> huh

14:17 <PovAddict> well you're lucky it's not sending text/html; charset=CHARSET

14:17 <PovAddict> :)

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> ;)

14:20 <yoyo[RKN]> ok, I changed ja.po

14:20 <yoyo[RKN]> how to compile it?

14:21 <yoyo[RKN]> ah

14:21 <yoyo[RKN]> cd ../../ops/; ./update_translations.php;

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14:25 <yoyo[RKN]> now I have this in the compiled file ;)

14:25 <yoyo[RKN]> $language_lookup_array["ja"]["CHARSET"] = "UTF-8";

14:26 <PovAddict> confirmed

14:26 <PovAddict> curl -b lang=ja -I http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/apps.php

14:26 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at www.rnaworld.de)

14:26 <yoyo[RKN]> jup, in the header now: Content-Typetext/html; charset=UTF-8

14:27 <yoyo[RKN]> much thx, PovAddict! Now I check/change all projct specific *.po

14:29 <yoyo[RKN]> :) :

14:29 <yoyo[RKN]> cs.po:132:msgid "CHARSET"

14:29 <yoyo[RKN]> cs.po-133-msgstr "Znaková sada"

14:30 <valer> Someone hasn't got the point

14:31 <PovAddict> the hell?

14:34 <valer> Translation needs some context to avoid things like that.

14:37 <PovAddict> valer: in the current code, CHARSET is gone

14:38 <PovAddict> valer: everything is UTF-8

14:39 <Tank_Master> not 16?

14:39 <PovAddict> not 16

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15:15 <valer> I got an idea. My legacy laptop has 2 cores. If I use only one of them for BOINC, maybe I can double the crunching speed while generating the same amount of heat.

15:15 <valer> I mean that way I could process bigger work units feasibly.

15:16 <Tank_Master> how would that double the crunching speed?

15:17 <valer> Speed per work unit.

15:17 <valer> Now I have to limit it.

15:17 <valer> (Too much heat generated.)

15:17 <Tank_Master> work units are single threded, save for some minor projects that have multithreded apps

15:18 <valer> Yeah, that's a shame.

15:19 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: instead of running two WUs with the CPU underclocked, he could run one WU on a single core but at full speed

15:19 <yoyo[RKN]> e.g. yafu has multi threaded apps ;)

15:23 <valer> Is YAFU a legit and useful project?-)

15:24 <valer> I might give it a go

15:24 <yoyo[RKN]> that is alone in the perspective of the user

15:25 <valer> heh

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20:05 <valer> Hmm, I pulled the source from Git and it tries to build the GUI without WxWidgets installed => linker fails.

20:10 <valer> In a log from this channel, someone said that LD_FLAGS should contain -lX11 but that doesn't seem to work.

20:16 <valer> Maybe it should be LDFLAGS.

20:24 <valer> Now the build crashed because sqlite is missing.

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20:35 <valer> Yes, with WxWidgets, SQLite and LDFLAGS=-lX11 it builds completely (using --disable-server).

20:38 <valer> Not a very rookie-friendly setup.

20:41 <valer> (The INSTALL file says: --disable_server, which is wrong and doesn't work.)

20:49 <PovAddict> valer: assume things are broken until proven otherwise

20:50 <valer> :)

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