IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2013-01-04

00:27 <froggyman> efc: oh, you meant looking at the stars

00:27 <froggyman> I meant running the programs by hand

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00:32 <efc> on a spectrum analyzer you see a plot of energy by frequency, you'd basically see the spikes and stuff s@h looks for

00:32 <efc> thats what its doing with the FFT

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01:29 <PovAddict> wtf, running on my GPU gives less credits

01:31 <PovAddict> ah, they're ignoring the credit claim and granting fixed credits

01:31 <PovAddict> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/workunit.php?wuid=141059555

01:31 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/a98fek7> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

02:37 <froggyman> PovAddict: I wonder if my system would be better off running on my CPU

02:42 * froggyman suspects that his GPU would do better

02:42 <froggyman> and I have certified graphics drivers since it's a firepro ^.^

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10:45 <_|Nix|_> Hi! Does anyone know what's going on with LHC@Home? I keep getting communication deferred. I can't seem to grab any work units off them. Are they out of work?

10:46 <_|Nix|_> I've got it set up to share resources 50% with Einstein@Home, but it only ever fetches E@H work units.

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11:03 <desti> http://www.livescience.com/25959-atoms-colder-than-absolute-zero.html

11:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/an2lsvx> (at www.livescience.com)

11:03 <desti> lhc is often out of work

11:04 <desti> http://lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch/sixtrack/server_status.php

11:04 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bbtsx4w> (at lhcathomeclassic.cern.ch)

11:10 <_|Nix|_> desti: Oh, I see: "Tasks ready to send: 0" ... I guess that means they're outta work.

11:10 <desti> yes

11:10 <_|Nix|_> desti: Thanks!

11:11 <_|Nix|_> desti: So, when work becomes available, boinc will automagically re-balance itselfm right?

11:11 <desti> yes

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11:39 <_|Nix|_> Excellent! Thanks for your help!

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13:48 <desti> http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-irc/

13:48 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cvnmrsb> (at royal.pingdom.com)

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17:07 <darsie> what's the unit of work done in seti@home?

17:08 <darsie> like, I have about 250/day with my core2 duo.

17:08 <PovAddict> a chunk of recorded signal; I don't remember how long

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17:08 <darsie> I don't do 250 chunks/day.

17:09 <darsie> the chunks are 12 s or so.

17:09 <darsie> or more

17:09 <PovAddict> oh, did you mean credits?

17:09 <darsie> It takes a signal 12 s or so to pass arecibo.

17:09 <darsie> yes.

17:10 <darsie> What units are these credits.

17:10 <PovAddict> in theory they are relative to floating point operations

17:13 <darsie> I remember the value is passed back by every user finishing a work unit and the lowest reported value is assigned to everyone finishing this work unit.

17:14 <PovAddict> something like that

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20:22 <blaise> pardon, anyone active?

20:23 <efc> Barely

20:25 <blaise> I'm having difficulty over here getting the boinc system running

20:25 <blaise> or, attached, and stuff

20:26 <efc> Did you get as far

20:27 <efc> .. BOINC installed ok?

20:27 <blaise> I believe so

20:27 <efc> then attach to a project, and problems there?

20:27 <blaise> boinc    24026  0.1  0.1  18372  3204 ?        SNs  00:58   0:02 /usr/bin/boinc_client --daemon --dir /var/lib/boinc --redirectio

20:27 <blaise> it's seemingly running

20:27 <blaise> but I'm ssh'ed in remotely

20:28 <blaise> with X11 forwarding

20:28 <blaise> running the boincmgr

20:28 <blaise> and I can't get it to connect,

20:29 <efc> boincmgr is running on the work machine then, right? (asking since it can also run remotely)

20:29 <blaise> yes, via ssh -X

20:29 <efc> You've gotten farther than I ever have on linux.. I'm not exactly sure what you should be seeing.

20:30 <blaise> well, boincmgr wont connect to the client

20:32 <blaise> and when ever I use boinccmd to try and do stuff via command line

20:32 <blaise> it just keeps saying Error -155: authentication error

20:32 <efc> There are some options which control what the clients will allow to connect, but shouldn't need tweaking for this setup

20:33 <blaise> I even cleared out the password

20:33 <efc> remote_hosts.cfg, gui_rpc_auth.cfg

20:33 <blaise> I can't get this thing to do anything

20:34 <efc> I'm pretty bad at linux.. stick around, maybe someone will show up

20:34 <efc> I haven't been able to install for one reason or another, most recently dependency problems

20:36 <efc> there are some linux notes at boinc, looking now

20:36 <efc> which you've probably already been through

20:37 <blaise> my god this is stressfull

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20:37 <blaise> brb,afk,..

20:37 <efc> 1196 bogomips, rock on

20:38 <blaise> who?

20:38 <blaise> what?

20:38 <efc> My CentOS box

20:38 <blaise> ah

20:38 <blaise> bogomips: 4001.00

20:38 <efc> I used to run a machine here that got 2.24 bogomips

20:38 <blaise> lmao

20:39 <blaise> I really don't care for this boinc client

20:39 <efc> when you started the client did you use --daemon?

20:39 <blaise> I wish I could just run the old seti client... :(

20:40 <blaise> the ebuild that was constructed for gentoo compiled the source version of boinc and manufactured init scripts fo rit

20:40 <blaise> *for it*

20:40 <blaise> the client is online.

20:40 <efc> Ok.. just reading instructions here.  http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC#Linux

20:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/b4zp29e> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

20:41 <blaise> I just can't seem to get it to attach to a project

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20:41 <blaise> I just wanna attach it to seti,

20:41 <blaise> I've got my key..

20:41 <blaise> project url

20:41 <blaise> but it's not taking it

20:41 <blaise> why can't I just edit a configuration file and put that junk in there

20:41 <blaise> wth

20:41 <efc> yeah i guess you need the manager to connect to get it to attach

20:42 <blaise> I've tried the manager

20:42 <blaise> it wont connect

20:43 <efc> i would suggest trying the manager on another computer but its been hard for me to get that working, so its not a great troubleshooting idea

20:43 <blaise> I even reconfigured to allow remote RPC

20:43 <blaise> changed the pass

20:43 <desti> you don't need the manager to attach to a project

20:44 <blaise> boinccmd isn't letting me do it either though

20:44 <blaise> idk wth is going wrong here..

20:44 <desti> stop the daemon

20:45 <desti> run boinc --attach_project url key

20:45 <desti> restart daemon

20:46 <desti> (i'm not sure which user runs the daemon)

20:46 <blaise> where is account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml typicly located?

20:46 <blaise> user = boinc

20:48 <desti> or you can just download the boinc binary and not use the system provided

20:48 <blaise> omg

20:51 <blaise> It's soooo not working

20:51 <blaise> seriously

20:51 <blaise> I even created that stupid xml file

20:52 <desti> ofc

20:52 <desti> the config has more than one file :p

20:54 <blaise> 05-Jan-2013 01:52:54 [---] GUI RPC bind to port 31416 failed: 98

20:54 <blaise> gstate.init() failed

20:54 <blaise> Error Code: -180

20:54 <blaise> this thing is broke....

20:55 <blaise> does it really have to be this complicated?

20:56 <desti> don't use the gui...

20:56 <blaise> I mean, I run a cluster.. and that's no easy task.. and I'm having problems with this boinc client... I can't even get it to listen to a port via the conf

20:56 <blaise> I'm not using the gui

20:56 <blaise> I gave up on that when I couldn't get it to connect to localhost with the daemon running

20:56 <blaise> lol

20:57 <desti> --no_gui_rpc

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20:59 <blaise> wow..

20:59 <zombie67> does abc@home checkpoint?

21:01 <PovAddict> blaise: I bet you're starting the client multiple times

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21:09 <blaise> I've got `watch "ps aux | grep boinc"' running

21:09 <blaise> it's only running one instance

21:10 <PovAddict> well "GUI RPC bind to port 31416 failed: 98" sounds like you tried to start a second instance

21:10 <PovAddict> which failed to bind the GUI RPC port because the client is already running and using the port

21:10 <blaise> well, that's what it tells me when I run boinccmd to attach the project

21:10 <PovAddict> what distro?

21:10 <blaise> gentoo

21:11 <PovAddict> did you install from the distro packages?

21:11 <blaise> I emerged it, yes.. it compiled from source and merged to the filesystems with no issues..

21:12 <PovAddict> then you should never ever run 'boinc'; that's the daemon and it's already started on boot

21:13 <blaise> ok, I got it working

21:13 <blaise> I had to cp account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml /var/lib/boinc/

21:13 <PovAddict> ...yes that should work

21:13 <PovAddict> but normally you'd run 'boinccmd' to control the running daemon and attach the project

21:14 <blaise> I tried,

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21:24 <blaise> wow, what a nightmare

21:24 <blaise> lol

21:25 <PovAddict> cd /var/lib/boinc/

21:25 <PovAddict> boinccmd --get_project_status

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22:12 <blaise> can the seti project make use of AMD/ATI STEAM ?

22:13 <blaise> I noticed the support for CUDA, but that's for nvidia

22:14 <PovAddict> yes

22:14 <PovAddict> not for the main app, but AstroPulse supports ati and nvidia opencl

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