IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2013-01-05

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00:29 <froggyman> PovAddict: holding steady at about 5000 credit/day :)

00:29 <PovAddict> wtf

00:30 <froggyman> what are you getting?

00:33 <PovAddict> are you not running tasks on your CPU at all?

00:34 <froggyman> nope

00:35 <froggyman> I found that running tasks on my CPU kills any work my GPU does

00:35 <froggyman> msi afterburner showed GPU utilization drop from 92% to like 15%

00:35 <efc> should be able to leave a core free for the GPU

00:35 * froggyman only has 2 cores available

00:36 <froggyman> and I'm actually using my computer too

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00:37 <froggyman> with it using 92% of my GPU and some CPU, I don't see any noticeable slow down in normal usage (watching youtube videos, browsing reddit, working on a few documents here and there)

00:41 <PovAddict> boincstats says you'll take 130 days to overtake me >_>

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00:42 <froggyman> PovAddict: well monday when I'm back at school I won't be running this quite as often since my laptop will spend more time on battery and doing stuff for class

00:42 <PovAddict> we're even then

00:43 <PovAddict> I often stop boinc because of the weather

00:43 <froggyman> the weather?

00:43 <Romulus> Rumor has it the weather is too damp, froggyman

00:43 <PovAddict> too hot to run computer at full power

00:43 <PovAddict> &wx buenos aires

00:43 <froggyman> ahhh

00:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 73.4F / 23.0C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4.3mph / 6.9km/h ; Clear. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:75 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:84 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:73 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:86 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:69 F.;

00:43 <PovAddict> 23C is *cold*, thanks to the rain

00:43 <froggyman> &wx milwaukee

00:43 <Romulus> froggyman: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

00:44 <froggyman> Lame.

00:44 <PovAddict> 27.5°C inside

00:44 <PovAddict> there's no wind :/

00:44 <PovAddict> froggyman:

00:44 <Romulus> <> (at

00:44 <froggyman> It's -4C by me :)

00:45 * froggyman thinks he'll run this more often to heat up his dorm room a bit

00:45 <froggyman> nice little 120W heater :)

00:45 <froggyman> Ooo. and with my room mate running it as well, that'd be 240W

00:46 <PovAddict> on your account?

00:47 <froggyman> probably not

00:47 <froggyman> probably on my team though

00:47 <PovAddict> make him run on his own account and join the race

00:47 <PovAddict> did he start already? :)

00:47 <froggyman> my school gives out these rather nice laptops to all their students and the school has a horrible representation on BOINC

00:48 <froggyman> I won't see him till monday

00:48 <froggyman> when I get back to school

00:48 <PovAddict> ahh

00:48 <PovAddict> I thought maybe he was in boinc already

00:48 <froggyman> not yet

00:49 <froggyman> he's a bit of a bitcoin fanatic, so his computer is usually mining coins

00:49 <PovAddict> if you pay for electricity, that's not profitable

00:49 <PovAddict> if you use the school's electricity, you're basically stealing from the school :P

00:50 <PovAddict> you only win if you mine when it's cheap and easy and sell when the difficulty and price go up

00:51 <PovAddict> and if you're going to do that kind of price speculation, you might as well buy instead of mining

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01:00 <efc> I've been trying to install boinc on CentOS5 for a while.. keep having dependency problems

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01:00 <efc> cannot open shared object file

01:01 <efc> can't seem to get it through yum

01:01 <PovAddict> search for anything *curl* in yum

01:03 <efc> hmm, well that found some things.

01:06 <efc> Suspect it is not going to work though. i have no idea how these linux .so's work but it seems like several have a new major version or something

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01:08 <froggyman> PovAddict: It's not stealing from the school. We pay $40,000/year!

01:26 <imperfect-> Anyone around could help me t-shoot a centos 6 install?

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02:16 <efc> finally got the client going, manager still AWOL

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12:35 <manishrw> hi

12:35 <manishrw> does validation take 10 hrs ??

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13:43 <PovAddict> my computer sounds like it's about to take off

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14:39 <manishrw> hello

14:39 <manishrw> does validation take as long as 12 hrs ?

14:40 <yoyo> depends on the project and the quorum

14:40 <PovAddict> manishrw: it depends on how long it takes other people to return the task... so worst case it could be days

14:40 <yoyo> month ;)

14:40 <PovAddict> maybe someone doesn't even return it by the deadline

14:40 <PovAddict> so it has to get resent

14:40 <manishrw> thats too long

14:40 <manishrw> i reported it before deadline

14:40 <PovAddict> yes you did

14:41 <PovAddict> but if the other person who got the same task doesn't return it in time

14:41 <PovAddict> when the deadline arrives, it will have to be resent to someone else

14:41 <PovAddict> and only when *that* is returned, the task will have a chance to run through the validator

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15:20 <manishrw> PovAddict, so u mean my result is validated by using anothers ?

15:21 <PovAddict> yes

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15:32 <blaise> yes, quadruple verified, stamped 75 times, burried in pete moss, mailed off, queued in london for 6 months..

15:32 <blaise> lost, found, lost again.. and finally verified..

15:32 <PovAddict> well, they do that too

15:32 <PovAddict> but that's after you get the credits

15:32 <blaise> lmao

15:33 <PovAddict> did you know signal recordings are transferred from the radiotelescope to the SETI@Home servers by carrying tapes back and forth?

15:34 <blaise> yerp

15:34 <blaise> I still can't believe they still use tape reels

15:34 <PovAddict> well

15:34 <PovAddict> it's more modern tech than you may think :)

15:34 <blaise> I've not seen a tape reel in, 25-30 years

15:35 <blaise> and, even then it was antiquated

15:35 <PovAddict> long-term backups are still often done in tape

15:35 <blaise> casset drives?

15:35 <blaise> or, actual old tape reels..

15:36 <blaise> I hope Casset tape drives..

15:36 <sm177y> how do i add a project in the linux boinc manager. Tools>Add project does nothing

15:36 <blaise> those tape reels are a nightmare.. esp if you have to splice..

15:36 <PovAddict> cassette

15:36 <PovAddict> they are all in closed cartridges, but some formats have a single reel inside instead of two

15:38 <PovAddict> blaise: apparently StorageTek released a 5TB tape cartridge in 2011

15:38 <blaise> sm177y: boinccmd --project_attach <URL> <auth>

15:38 <sm177y> thank you

15:38 <PovAddict> neh

15:38 <PovAddict> if boincmgr doesn't work, chances are boinccmd won't either

15:38 <PovAddict> sm177y: what distro?

15:38 <blaise> PovAddict: yeah..

15:38 <blaise> lmao

15:39 <blaise> I didn't even mess with it..

15:39 <blaise> just put the file where it needed with the stuffings it wants

15:41 <sm177y> what's used for the auth parameter. sorry, first time using this.

15:42 <PovAddict> sm177y: what distro?

15:42 <sm177y> gentoo

15:42 <blaise> that wonderfull auth key you get from the seti@home website

15:43 <blaise> it'll provide two, actually

15:43 <PovAddict> sm177y: are you starting boincmgr from the console or from your desktop environment's application list?

15:43 <blaise> you only need the one that you can add a project with and view info

15:43 <blaise> the other grants full access to your seti account

15:44 <sm177y> console. daemon is running. i made a boinc user but i cant start the boinc manager as boinc user. doesn't see display (X is running from sm177y)

15:44 <PovAddict> you should run all graphical apps in your user account

15:44 <sm177y> i can run it from my normal user fine. just trying to get a project added here

15:44 <sm177y> yeah i figured that

15:45 <PovAddict> go to /var/lib/boinc/, tell me the permissions of gui_rpc_auth.cfg

15:45 <sm177y> -rw-r--r-- 1 boinc boinc    5 Jan  5 14:20 gui_rpc_auth.cfg

15:46 <PovAddict> ok, then just run boincmgr while you're in that directory and it should work

15:47 <sm177y> ok it's working. didn't know i had to be in the boinc home :)

15:48 <sm177y> now the add project dialog works as well. thanks

15:49 <sm177y> i knew it was something stupidly simple XD

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20:13 <froggyman> PovAddict: still getting 5000/ day :P

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22:15 <PovAddict> I have 5000 pending :)

22:42 <froggyman> Ooo

22:43 <froggyman> I have 67.72 pending... but that doesn't seem to match up with what I actually get

22:43 <PovAddict> I meant I have 10 tasks pending

22:43 <PovAddict> they seem to give 500 credits per task regardless of the claim, so...

22:45 <froggyman> ah

22:45 <froggyman> I have 19 pending ;)

22:45 <froggyman> (2 are on my computer)

22:45 <froggyman> that makes sense

22:46 <PovAddict> D:

22:46 <PovAddict> for some reason I only get one GPU task at a time

22:47 <froggyman> really?

22:47 <froggyman> I disabled both of the other projects

22:47 <PovAddict> yes, it gives me enough work to keep my CPU busy, plus 1 GPU task

22:49 * froggyman likes actually using his computer

22:49 <froggyman> so I only fold on my gpu

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