IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2013-01-06

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01:50 <Zumu> froggyman: what is your GPU?

01:50 <froggyman> Zumu: ati firepro m5950

01:53 <froggyman> Zumu: why?

01:54 <Zumu> froggyman: just interested

01:55 <froggyman> Zumu: what do you fold with?

01:55 <PovAddict> 'fold'?

01:55 <froggyman> PovAddict: meh.

01:55 <Zumu> froggyman: you said 5000 a day

01:55 <Zumu> http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=FirePro+M5950&id=233

01:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/b6zrnak> (at www.videocardbenchmark.net)

01:56 <froggyman> yeah, around there. Looks like I'll be doing a bit better in the future with all of the pending credits I have

01:57 <froggyman> Zumu: can't complain. I didn't have any choice in the laptop. My school forced me to get it

01:58 <Zumu> what does "professional graph" mean?

01:59 <froggyman> Idk... I know it's a "pro card" meaning it just has certified drivers which theoretically allow it to compute more accurately usually for things like autocad and solidworks

01:59 <Zumu> oh

02:00 <Zumu> probably like nvidia quadro

02:00 <froggyman> exactly like the quadro... just from ati

02:00 <PovAddict> the nvidia-smi monitoring tool is artificially limited to Quadro and Tesla :(

02:01 <PovAddict> for normal gefore it only tells you the overall memory usage, fan speed, and chip temperature

02:01 <PovAddict> geforce*

02:01 <PovAddict> for "fully-supported products" you get statistics about each individual computing process using the GPU

02:05 * froggyman should see if he can computer faster with non-certified graphic drivers

02:06 <froggyman> but with it using opencl i'm not sure if it'll matter

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03:07 <Zumu> I've heard that quadro isn't as good for boinc

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03:26 <Zumu> I'll ask a Quadro at work

03:28 <Zumu> [GPUGRID] Error reported by file upload server: Server is out of disk space

03:28 <Zumu> ;(

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04:21 <Tank_Master> Zumu, a quadro will work just fine, though youll likely not get any benifites over a standard desktop card

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07:31 <eikelmt> I am Tony from Norway runninf FC17 - 64 bit with kde

07:31 <eikelmt> I have a problem with boinc and boinc client will not connect to localhost when I am starting up from the menu

07:31 <eikelmt> There might be some issues with permission since I can start boincmgr from term window as root and it will work

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07:33 <eikelmt> I have also experience this on FC 16

07:34 <eikelmt> boinc_client works find and running as user boinc as it should

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07:49 <eikelmt> is there any help to get in here

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09:17 <Zumu> milkyway has new apps

09:17 <Zumu> milkyway_nbody_1.04_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu_mt__opencl_nvidia

09:17 <Zumu> oh, N-Body Simulation

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12:57 <nge01> hello! who are using boing in archlinux x64

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13:08 <GoSox> How can I configure my client to accept only GPU work units? Emphasis on "only", it is accepting GPU work units now, but also CPU units.

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13:21 <GoSox> i made a cc_config.xml file, i put <ncpus>0</ncpus> in it, but my client still runs both it's CPU cores with CPU units in addition to running GPU units

13:22 <PovAddict> I'm pretty sure 0 there means 'not configured, use all'

13:22 <GoSox> according to the docs, -1 means 'use all' and 0 means use none, gpu only

13:26 <PovAddict> I stand corrected

13:34 <desti> there should be an option in your account settings

13:35 <GoSox> negative, i have multiple machines and many many projects. I only want this one Mac to be limited to GPU only, so account settings won't work, it has to be a client app setting

13:39 <desti> you can create multiple profiles for different systems

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14:24 <PovAddict> I woke up and, again, my mom told me the computer sounded like an airplane turbine

14:24 <PovAddict> so I had to stop boinc

14:24 <PovAddict> sure enough, room was at 30°C

14:27 <froggyman> haha

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14:42 <CoderForLife> I'm going to install an update verison of Miranda.  Depending on how that goes, either I'll be back right away, or a very long time from now.

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14:46 <CoderForLife> sselniap saw taht

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14:52 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I think the new version might have a bug with text direction

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15:12 <krispin> hi, i am new to boinc. Are there are any tasks(programming) that are open?

15:13 <PovAddict> you should ask in the boinc_dev mailing list

15:14 <PovAddict> but I suggest you get some experience as a user first :)

15:15 <krispin> thanks ,i will do that

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15:38 <CoderForLife> xht PovAddict :)

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17:02 <PovAddict> power outage D:

17:04 <PovAddict> I scripted apcupsd to stop BOINC when there is an outage, it unsurprisingly makes the UPS battery last 2x-3x longer

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17:46 <efc> Nice trick

17:46 <efc> I think you can do it on windows with the "run on batteries" options

17:47 <efc> but haven't tested it

17:47 <PovAddict> dunno about Windows

17:47 <PovAddict> I know that on Linux the UPS does *not* appear the same way as a laptop battery

17:47 <PovAddict> it would be cool if it did, then I could have a battery level indicator in the system tray, etc

17:48 <efc> I think UPS counts as battery on windows.. I could go test it.

17:48 <PovAddict> well I know Windows has systemwide support for UPSs, I think Linux doesn't

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17:52 <efc> tested it.. yep, BOINC shut down.

17:54 <efc> I would like to be able to prioritze BOINC traffic, make it idle priority, basically. Probably doable on linux.

17:55 <PovAddict> network traffic?

17:55 <efc> Yes, don't want WUs bogging down the phat dialup connection.

17:56 <PovAddict> dialup is so last century

17:56 <PovAddict> do you pay flat rate at least?

17:56 <efc> Unfortunately, linux usually leaves me trying to gouge out my eyes.

17:57 <efc> Yes

17:57 <PovAddict> I remember using "free" dialup (ie. pay only for the phone call)

17:57 <efc> I've tried to get dad to try a dual-link connection at least, but he's not interested

17:58 <PovAddict> that sucked

17:58 <efc> there was a service here, free, circa 2000, called "Bluelight"

17:59 <efc> Awful, but free, worked well enough to find a decent ISP.

17:59 <efc> They would play movies for ads and such

17:59 <PovAddict> well 'free' meant 'ISP has an agreement with the phone company where they take a cut from the calls'

17:59 <efc> I discovered you could replace their movie files with anything you wanted..

18:00 <PovAddict> so you'd pay the normal price for phone calls... which is per minute

18:01 <efc> local calls have been flat rate here as long as I can remember. But in the mid 90s the selection of ISPs with a local number was pretty limited.

18:01 <efc> flat-rate = free with the phone line

18:03 <PovAddict> I wonder why the second I stop BOINC, the fan speed increases

18:03 <PovAddict> to bring it to idle temperature faster?

18:04 <efc> Makes no sense to me

18:05 <PovAddict> it goes back down later

18:05 <efc> I was suprised to learn my dells have no temperature sensors at all

18:06 <efc> they just run the fan full blast all the time

18:06 <efc> cica 2004

18:06 <efc> *circa

18:09 <PovAddict> I just wrote a script to regulate BOINC based on the CPU fan speed

18:10 <efc> set a target speed and BOINC adjusts to allow that?

18:10 <PovAddict> just pauses and resumes BOINC according to fan speed

18:10 <PovAddict> with some hysteresis

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18:11 <PovAddict> if speed above H, stop computing; if speed below L, resume computing

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21:49 <desti> http://world.kbs.co.kr/english/news/news_hotissue_detail.htm?lang=e&current_page=&No=107695

21:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/b945paj> (at world.kbs.co.kr)

21:50 <PovAddict> &web title [url last]

21:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: KBS WORLD

21:50 <PovAddict> stupid website

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22:03 <PovAddict> desti: what do you think is an acceptable data:time rate for BOINC WUs?

22:03 <desti> ?

22:04 <PovAddict> a workunit with N megabytes of input files and T time needed to process

22:04 <PovAddict> what's an acceptable N:T ratio?

22:04 <Tank_Master> hey, wheres my snow? we don thave any snow!!

22:04 <Tank_Master> climate change my ass

22:04 <Tank_Master> :P

22:04 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: ^ opinions you too?

22:05 <Tank_Master> i dont know

22:05 <Tank_Master> i know climage projects werent all that big wu wise, but took months to process

22:05 * PovAddict sends 1GB-input 1-minute-processing WUs to Tank_Master

22:07 <efc> my unsolicited opinion, I like small Wus/big crunchtime for dialup..

22:07 <PovAddict> efc: well that I know :)

22:07 <PovAddict> I meant for people with anywhere near decent internet access :)

22:08 <efc> I used to run einstein, was pretty bad on the WUs for that one IIRC

22:08 <PovAddict> einstein used to have giant files

22:08 <Tank_Master> just have the gov give everyone fiber access

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22:08 <PovAddict> but which were reused for multiple WUs

22:08 <efc> some of the more math oriented projects can be good, check the integers from X to Y for some property. not many of those though.

22:09 <PovAddict> there's a new awesome program that I found

22:09 <PovAddict> and I'd love to tear its algorithms out and put them into a BOINC app

22:10 <PovAddict> for my current test, 21MB input, and I estimate 10 minutes runtime but it's not done yet

22:10 <PovAddict> I think it's close to O(n²) though so I could increase the input a little to increase the runtime a lot

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22:15 <desti> what's output size? i think it's more important, because most internet connections have much slower upload rate than download rate

22:16 <PovAddict> I haven't checked yet but I'm pretty sure it's below 1MB

22:16 <PovAddict> finished, 15 minutes

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22:23 <PovAddict> ok, I can't check the output size... crashes when I go to 'save'

22:25 <desti> well, i would say you shouldn't go over 100 MB download per hour and 20 MB upload per hour

22:26 <desti> on high end systems

22:38 <PovAddict> desti: http://i.imgur.com/vd2WA.jpg

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