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03:41 <siamba> raspberry pi is softfloat ;(

03:42 <siamba> and 32bit

03:43 <efc> Turing complete?

03:54 <siamba> hm

03:54 <siamba> "Broadcom BCM2835 700MHz ARM1176JZFS processor with FPU and Videocore 4 GPU" - with FPU

03:55 <siamba> http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b-single-board-computer-512mb/7568308.aspx

03:55 <Romulus> Title:  (at raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com)

03:59 <dddh> is it possible to run boinc apps on arm6 cpu?

04:01 <Tank_Master> http://zyalt.livejournal.com/722930.html some of those vids of the metorite over russia are quite incredible

04:01 <Romulus> Title: zyalt: Взрыв метеорита в небе над Уралом... Вся информация в одном посте. (at zyalt.livejournal.com)

04:01 <dddh> I could order several raspberry pi or beaglebone(or arduino)

04:04 <dddh> instead of waiting for GTX 780 release

04:04 <dddh> Tank_Master: do you believe it was a meteorite?

04:12 <Tank_Master> yes, why wouldnt i?

04:13 <efc> its thought to be too big to be junk re-entering

04:46 <dddh> efc: rasberry pi is more than just a turing machine

04:49 <efc> i should sell a Turing machine. infinite paper tape not included.

04:50 <dddh> :)

05:13 <dddh> overclocking raspberry pi: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008

05:14 <Romulus> Title: Introducing turbo mode: up to 50% more performance for free | Raspberry Pi (at www.raspberrypi.org)

05:14 <dddh> "C compiler : arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc" - hard float

05:16 <dddh> GTX 690 > 10 overclocked ARM CPUs

05:16 <dddh> :(

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08:41 <microchip_> anyone knows if DG@Putra is retired? It's been unavailable for almost a month now

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08:57 * dddh ordered raspberry pi model b

09:00 <dddh> "Despatch expected in 3 week(s)" ;(

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15:49 <xcamel> & wx 12074

15:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 42.3F / 5.7C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Friday - Partly cloudy with snow showers. High of 41F. Winds from the SW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 20%.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of snow after midnight. Low of 18F. Winds from the West at 10 to 15 mph. (1 more message)

15:52 <AlbinoGeek> Heh, Romulus can't handle a +4.

15:52 <PovAddict> a what?

15:55 <AlbinoGeek> PovAddict: A ZIP+4, or extended UK postal code.

15:56 <AlbinoGeek> Only works with USA/Canada postal by the looks/.

15:56 <AlbinoGeek> Past that, city names are fine.

15:57 <Tank_Master> itll also do airports

15:57 <Tank_Master> &wx hio

15:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53F / 12C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1028hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Friday - Partly cloudy. Fog early. High of 59F. Winds less than 5 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of rain after midnight. Fog overnight. Low of 37F. Winds less than 5 mph. Chance of rain 30%.; Saturday - Overcast (1 more message)

15:57 <Tank_Master> &more

15:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: with a chance of rain in the morning, then partly cloudy with a chance of rain. Fog early. High of 50F. Winds from the West at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%.;

15:58 <AlbinoGeek> &wx BRS

15:58 <Romulus> AlbinoGeek: Temperature: 39F / 4C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Clear. High:46 F.; Fog. Low:35 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:44 F.; Fog. Low:33 F.; Fog. High:48 F.; Fog. Low:33 F.;

15:58 <AlbinoGeek> Ahh, convenient.

15:58 <PovAddict> &wx eze

15:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 90F / 32C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h ; Clear. High:91 F.; Clear. Low:69 F.; Clear. High:89 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:71 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:86 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:60 F.;

15:58 <PovAddict> enjoy ^

15:59 <AlbinoGeek> Ministro Pistarini Argentina ?

15:59 <AlbinoGeek> Buenos Aires, ahh

16:00 <AlbinoGeek> So, if I wanted to do some distributed computing, how would I go about creating the workunits and such?

16:00 <AlbinoGeek> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/boinc.pdf is great, but not very English.

16:05 <PovAddict> AlbinoGeek: you need to setup your own BOINC server

16:05 <AlbinoGeek> PovAddict: Yeah, looking at that; but seeing more encyclopedic description than example.

16:05 <PovAddict> the documentation sucks and I failed to argue otherwise

16:05 <AlbinoGeek> :P

16:05 <PovAddict> there is an encyclopedic description

16:06 <AlbinoGeek> The bst I've found so far is: http://www.spy-hill.net/~myers/help/boinc/Create_Project.html#server

16:06 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bnmgzo9> (at www.spy-hill.net)

16:06 <PovAddict> and there is a "here's how you can set up a BOINC server quickly: ./create_project --test_app, and watch it work!"

16:06 <PovAddict> yeah cool that sets everything up

16:06 <PovAddict> and now not only you have to figure out how to make it do what you want, but also how to make it stop doing the test app stuff

16:07 <PovAddict> and since you didn't install it from scratch you didn't learn anything about how it works

16:07 <AlbinoGeek> A useful example would be "Given generate.exe takes a -start and -end argument, generate workunits of batches of 1000" or something, something practical for scaled computing at a very simple example.

16:07 <PovAddict> well for starters you need a LAMP server, and setting that up would be outside the scope of a BOINC manual :)

16:08 <AlbinoGeek> PovAddict: I have AMP stacks, many many AMP stacks :P

16:08 <PovAddict> AlbinoGeek: great start then

16:08 <AlbinoGeek> Love this: http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Index.php#Creating_a_BOINC_Powered_Project Nice error at the top.

16:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bo4ubvc> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

16:08 <AlbinoGeek> Good going maintainers.

16:09 <PovAddict> I have given handholding help to someone who turned out to be completely clueless about Linux admin, MySQL, and in the end, it turned out he had never used BOINC as an end-user either

16:09 <PovAddict> it was a nightmare

16:09 <AlbinoGeek> Lol wow.

16:09 <AlbinoGeek> This is the first useful page: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwarePrereqsUnix

16:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3ydfwm> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

16:09 <AlbinoGeek> Should be step 1.

16:10 <PovAddict> boinc-wiki.info is unofficial, and if you look at the recent changes you'll see it's just user creations probably from spammers

16:10 <AlbinoGeek> I might write my own guide if this is so ridiculous.  Just as an aftermath.

16:11 <PovAddict> yep just spam and spam removal for the past year or so

16:15 <AlbinoGeek> Right, writing guide..

16:15 <PovAddict> "Following the unexpected arrival of a 10-ton meteor that reportedly broke up above the Russian city of Chelyabinsk early Friday morning, more than 1,000 people have been seriously injured in what sources confirmed was the most awesome f---ing thing ever." -- The Onion

16:18 <AlbinoGeek> I hate dumbing things down...

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19:09 <Chex> hi there, I am having some trouble figuring out how to use boincstats as a account manager

19:10 <Chex> when I look under 'My projects' and 'My groups' its totally empty, and I cant figure out how to add my projects I am running my clients under here

19:12 <Chex> when I look at my hosts under 'BAM! :: Host list' , under 'group' all my clients its listed as blank. anyone point me to how I can fix this?

19:12 <PovAddict> you have to attach your client to BAM first

19:12 <Chex> yup, done that already.

19:12 <Chex> oh wait

19:12 <Chex> no, I attached my clients to Seti@Home 1st

19:12 <PovAddict> note that if you use BAM, it becomes *the* way to manage projects, and you shouldn't attach/detach projects manually from the BOINC Manager

19:13 <Chex> then connected to BAM

19:13 <PovAddict> hm then it should appear in your host list

19:13 <Chex> mmm, ok, I sort of understand that. :|

19:13 <Chex> im using the cmdline clinets, mostly on linux, and doing the connecting there.

19:14 <PovAddict> you used boinccmd --join_acct_mgr?

19:14 <Chex> yes

19:14 <Chex> boinccmd --join_acct_mgr http://boincstats.boincstats.com/bam chex xxxx

19:17 <Chex> sss@stefan-desk:~/stef$ boinccmd --get_project_status :: 1) name: SETI@home

19:19 <Chex> oh well.

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19:21 <PovAddict> looks like there is no way to get account manager information from boinccmd

19:21 <PovAddict> like to see if you're attached or not

19:24 <Chex> oh, really?

19:24 <Chex> why cant I just try to attach again?

19:24 <PovAddict> sure you can

19:24 <Chex> or should I detach my seti@home project in the client, and try to do it in BAM?

19:29 <PovAddict> if it doesn't appear on the host list on the BAM website, something isn't working

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19:39 <Chex> PovAddict: oh really? hmmm

19:40 <Chex> PovAddict: I will try to detach on the client, and see if I can attach on the BAM site

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19:40 <Chex> -project URL op

19:41 <Chex> op = reset | detach

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20:02 <Chex> PovAddict: ok, I managed to remove seti@home from my client, detached from BAM acct_manager, and then I re-attached to BAM from boincmgr..

20:02 <Chex> PovAddict: now I need to connect my clent to seti@home from the BAM site

20:03 <Chex> PovAddict: so how do I add a project to my client on BAM?

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20:03 <Chex> I click on 'edit' when I am viewing my client, I get a blank list

20:04 <Chex> PovAddict: 'edit projects' comes up with a blank list

20:05 <Chex> if I click on 'my projects' another blank list.. not sure how to do this.

20:05 <PovAddict> "sign up for projects"

20:06 <Chex> ok

20:06 <Chex> takes me to a long list of projects

20:06 <PovAddict> and use find account instead of create account since you already have a seti account

20:06 <Chex> I click on seti, and it just bounces me to the seti website

20:07 <Chex> not what I want, I assume, no?

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20:10 <Chex> oh, I see

20:10 <Chex> PovAddict: ok, when I click on 'find account' for seti, I get this: " Incorrect password "

20:11 <Chex> where/what passwd is that?

20:16 <Chex> hmm, same thing for another project I am in..

20:16 <Chex> not sure where to set/fix that password

20:26 <Chex> aha

20:26 <Chex> " BAM! can only find accounts when the email address, the username and the password of the project are the same as those of BAM!. Check these at the project, and change it when needed. "

20:26 <Chex> my passwd on the project, and BAM have to be the same

20:27 <Chex> kind of weak-sauce, but OK, I guess :/

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20:28 <Chex> " Your password has been changed. "

20:31 <Rookie_69> &seen coderforlife

20:31 <Romulus> Rookie_69: coderforlife was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 3 hours, 48 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <CoderForLife> &more

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21:24 <Chex> PovAddict: hey, Im all set now, projects are connected and working now.. thank you.

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