IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2013-06-11

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04:45 <LocutusOfBorg1> Hi Romulus , where did romulans hide?

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15:02 <dardo82> hi

15:02 <dardo82> anyone here?

15:02 <dardo82> i have a problem…

15:02 <dardo82> i can’t run the BOINC client on my Mac OS X 10.8.4

15:03 <dardo82> not even with -insecure (or it is —insecure?) option

15:05 <dardo82> and by the way it seems there is a bug in the Mac_SA_Secure.sh script…

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15:19 <dardo82> hey eagles0513875,can you help me?

15:19 <dardo82> i can’t run the BOINC client on my Mac OS X 10.8.4

15:24 <Tank_Master> the latest version?

15:24 <Romulus> Rumor has it the latest version is available in some repository or other, Tank_Master

15:24 <Tank_Master> forget the latest version

15:24 <Romulus> I hear ya, Tank_Master.

15:24 <Tank_Master> stupid bot

15:24 <dardo82> yes,of course…

15:24 <Tank_Master> known issue when using a non admin account

15:25 <dardo82> boinc_7.0.65_macOSX_i686

15:25 <Tank_Master> i saw in the mail list that a fix for that was added today, so id assume the next version will work

15:25 <dardo82> what? wait… where?

15:25 <Tank_Master> theres a few mail lists for BOINC you can subscribe to

15:29 <dardo82> boinc_dev?

15:34 <dardo82> Tank_Master: boinc_alpha?

15:47 <dardo82> Tank_Master: are you sure you aren’t just bot?

15:48 <Tank_Master> sorry, i was lost in something else

15:48 <Tank_Master> im joined to a few, let me look which one had the message

15:49 <dardo82> ok,thaks…

15:49 <Tank_Master> boinc_alpha

15:50 <Tank_Master> heres what it said:

15:50 <Tank_Master> this packages cannot be installed by a a non administrative account:

15:50 <Tank_Master> BOINC installer is identified as ´Damaged´ by OS-X 10.8

15:50 <Tank_Master> (No issues with an administrative account)

15:50 <Tank_Master> .

15:50 <Tank_Master> Thank you. I will look into this.

15:51 <Tank_Master> I checked in some changes which should fix this. Please let me know if you still see it in the next build.

15:51 <dardo82> anyway i’m admin here…

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15:51 <dardo82> as this is my own Mac

15:54 <dardo82> Tank_Master: my user is in the admin group

15:54 <dardo82> Mac-mini:~ dardo82$ groups staff boinc_project boinc_master com.apple.access_screensharing-disabled everyone _appstore localaccounts _appserverusr admin _appserveradm _lpadmin _lpoperator _developer

15:54 <dardo82> but it doesn’t work!

15:55 <dardo82> Mac-mini:~ dardo82$ cd /Applications/BOINCManager.app/Contents/Resources/

15:56 <dardo82> Mac-mini:Resources dardo82$ ./boinc --insecure 11-Jun-2013 21:55:06 [---] No config file found - using defaults File ownership or permissions are set in a way that does not allow sandboxed execution of BOINC applications. To use BOINC anyway, use the -insecure command line option. To change ownership/permission, reinstall BOINC or run  the shell script Mac_SA_Secure.sh. (Error code -1022)

15:59 <xcamel> &wx 12074

15:59 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 60.5F / 15.8C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tuesday - Overcast with thunderstorms and rain, then thunderstorms and rain showers in the afternoon. Fog early. High of 73F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80% with rainfall amounts near 0.4 in. possible.; Tuesday (1 more message)

16:00 <dardo82> xcamel: please help me…

16:04 <xcamel> hmmm??

16:04 <dardo82> i can’t run the BOINC client on my Mac OS X 10.8.4

16:05 <dardo82> not even with -insecure (or it is —insecure?) option

16:05 <dardo82> and by the way it seems there is a bug in the Mac_SA_Secure.sh script…

16:05 <xcamel> you basically have to install/run it as root (AFAICT)

16:07 <xcamel> you may be able to log in as a single super-user and get it to work.

16:07 <xcamel> otherwise, I'm clueless.

16:08 <dardo82> you mean sudo ./boinc —insecure?

16:10 <dardo82> Tank_Master: what do you think about it?

16:12 <Tank_Master> i dont use mac, so i dont know really

16:14 <dardo82> i think it’s a UNIX problem…

16:14 <dardo82> but i maybe wrong…

16:15 <dardo82> xcamel: sudo ./boinc —insecure gives the same result…

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16:17 <dardo82> whynot: why don’t you help me? ;-)

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16:18 <dardo82> Switeck: can you help me?

16:19 <Switeck> huh?

16:19 <dardo82> i have a problem…

16:19 <Switeck> help you what?

16:19 * whynot reads RSS

16:19 <dardo82> i can’t run the BOINC client on my Mac OS X 10.8.4

16:20 <Switeck> I never used a Mac OS.

16:20 <dardo82> maybe you used Linux or any UNIX?

16:20 <Switeck> Not beyond briefly and not really more than superficially.

16:21 <dardo82> and not BOINC on it,right?

16:21 <Switeck> Does it get as far as returning an error message.

16:22 <Switeck> Is it blocked by your OS or software firewall/antivirus software?

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16:23 <Switeck> Having full access rights (probably even admin level access) is probably a must to run BOINC on Linux or Mac OS.

16:23 <dardo82> it gives me this error message:

16:23 <dardo82> ./boinc --insecure 11-Jun-2013 21:55:06 [---] No config file found - using defaults File ownership or permissions are set in a way that does not allow sandboxed execution of BOINC applications. To use BOINC anyway, use the -insecure command line option. To change ownership/permission, reinstall BOINC or run  the shell script Mac_SA_Secure.sh. (Error code -1022)

16:23 <dardo82> i have full access rights:

16:24 <dardo82> Mac-mini:~ dardo82$ groups staff boinc_project boinc_master com.apple.access_screensharing-disabled everyone _appstore localaccounts _appserverusr admin _appserveradm _lpadmin _lpoperator _developer

16:24 <xcamel> You trying to run the command line version?

16:24 <dardo82> i’m trying to troubleshoot it!

16:24 <xcamel> why bother?? the graphic version runs just fine.

16:25 <whynot> first, you've better pastebin dumps (instead of pasting into channel), lines are join, hard to read

16:25 <whynot> second, message says '-insecure', not '--insecure'

16:26 <dardo82> oh,you are all genius…

16:26 <dardo82> if it was so simple…

16:27 <dardo82> i would have figured it out on my own!

16:27 <dardo82> that is what i will have to do…

16:28 <dardo82> as you are quite useless…

16:28 <dardo82> sorry for wasting your time…

16:28 <whynot> third, what about fixing permissions (that's what message complains about)?

16:29 <dardo82> from boinc --help

16:29 <dardo82> --insecure                     disable app sandboxing (Unix)

16:30 <dardo82> you don’t even know what you are talking about…

16:30 <dardo82> Mac-mini:Resources dardo82$ ls -l boinc -r-sr-sr-x  1 boinc_master  boinc_master  2088200 17 Apr 02:28 boinc

16:30 <whynot> I'm just reading your pastes in channel, that's what I have

16:30 <dardo82> permissions seems ok…

16:31 <dardo82> then it’s not enough…

16:33 <whynot> shouldn't permisions allow writing?

16:33 <dardo82> on the boinc bin?

16:33 <dardo82> -_-

16:34 <whynot> I've misinterpreted, boinc executable, probably, isn't the problem

16:34 <whynot> what's about data directory?

16:35 <whynot> that's where sandboxing is attempted, I believe

16:36 <dardo82> Mac-mini:Resources dardo82$ ls -ld /Library/Application\ Support/BOINC\ Data  drwxrwx--x  9 boinc_master  boinc_master  1394 11 Giu 19:59 /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data

16:36 <dardo82> it’s ok no?

16:38 <whynot> yes, and

16:39 <whynot> you say '--insecure', it ignores, suggests '-insecure', and fails

16:40 <whynot> what about giving it what it wants?

16:40 <whynot> you've already tried uninstall and that Mac_SA_Secure.sh?

16:41 <dardo82> do you believe me if i tell you it’s the same?

16:41 <dardo82> ok,now of the funny part…

16:41 <whynot> yes, I believe you

16:41 <dardo82> the script is bugged!

16:43 <dardo82> it wants to execute LOGNAME at a certain point…

16:43 <dardo82> that is a variable instead!

16:44 <whynot> that's quiet possible

16:44 <dardo82> because it should be "$LOGNAME"

16:44 <whynot> what's the version? is it latest or recommended?

16:44 <dardo82> instead of "S(LOGNAME)"

16:45 <dardo82> what is the difference?

16:45 <dardo82> it’s boinc_7.0.65_macOSX_i686

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16:48 <whynot> latest may be more broken than recommended (for whatever OS)

16:48 <whynot> however: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=1721

16:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lt3tpyk> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

16:49 <whynot> looks like old story though

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16:53 <whynot> sorry about that ($#@! google), it's about 1202, not 1022

16:58 <dardo82> whynot: if by latest you mean development,no i’m using recommended…

16:59 <whynot> anyway, BOINC FAQ doesn't know about 1022 either

17:00 <whynot> may I suggest exploring sources looking for 1022 error and what triggers it?

17:00 <dardo82> uhm…

17:00 <dardo82> maybe…

17:00 <dardo82> it would be a big mess…

17:01 <dardo82> but i could find something…

17:02 * whynot has found in sources how to switch off CPU share avoiding manager config-only way

17:02 <whynot> so you can be successful too

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17:18 <dardo82> whynot: i should download that? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gitweb/?p=boinc-v2.git;a=tree

17:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/pwjyzs5> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:21 <whynot> looking...

17:21 <whynot> heck - no, looks like it's 7.1.14

17:28 <whynot> if I'm not mistaken:

17:28 <whynot> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gitweb/?p=boinc-v2.git;a=blob;f=version.h;h=4a5874f1fa6bcb50dd87b2378519920b2a57b4c7;hb=79b00ef50cf1378a528a475053f4312c551f1269

17:28 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nwpjklk> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:29 <whynot> somewhere on this page there're two links zip and tar.bz2 (I'm elinks user, links can be anywhere)

17:29 <whynot> however, with git there could be a problem

17:30 <whynot> it's up to remote admins to create (or allow to create) those snapshot files

17:30 <whynot> (e.g. githab (from my experience) allows only HEAD snapshots)

17:32 <Switeck> Seems Milkyway@Home isn't handing out new WU's at this time for me...is that the same for everyone?

17:33 <dardo82> i’m not in that project,sorry…

17:34 <dardo82> whynot: where do i get the right sources?

17:34 <whynot> I've posted url, you know

17:35 <whynot> six minutes ago

17:36 <whynot> looks for links named 'zip' and/or 'tar.bz2'

17:36 <dardo82> no…

17:37 <dardo82> nothing…

17:37 <dardo82> you haven’t posted it

17:37 <dardo82> :-O

17:37 <dardo82> git clone git://boinc.berkeley.edu/boinc-v2.git boinc_repo

17:37 <dardo82> this is suggested here:

17:37 <dardo82> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SourceCodeGit

17:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/csqueyw> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:38 <dardo82> ah ok!

17:38 <whynot> you're looking at HEAD, it's not HEAD what you need

17:38 <dardo82> i’ve overlooked it sorry…

17:38 <dardo82> :-P

17:39 <whynot> now find 'zip' and/or 'tar.bz2' links, those are probably on top

17:40 <whynot> I've tried 'tar.bz2' -- it works, however, I've aborted (I'm not that interested)

17:42 <dardo82> excuse me,but what you posted is just a link to version.h!

17:43 <whynot> I'm sorry, just a sec

17:43 <dardo82> ok…

17:43 <dardo82> ^_^

17:44 <whynot> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gitweb/?p=boinc-v2.git;a=tree;h=cb3658e59925f341aacbfa40222f0301e980ad66;hb=79b00ef50cf1378a528a475053f4312c551f1269

17:44 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lds346l> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:45 <dardo82> ah, you are right!

17:46 <dardo82> it should be in client/check_security.cpp

17:47 <dardo82> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/gitweb/?p=boinc-v2.git;a=blob_plain;f=client/check_security.cpp;hb=79b00ef50cf1378a528a475053f4312c551f1269

17:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lzxoqhm> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:50 <dardo82>     if (use_sandbox) {          // The top-level BOINC Data directory can have a different user if created by the Manager,          // but it should always have group boinc_master.         if (sbuf.st_gid != boinc_master_gid)             return -1022;                  // The top-level BOINC Data directory should have permission 771 or 571         if ((sbuf.st_mode & 0577) != 0571)             return -1023;                  } else {

17:51 <dardo82> whynot: that makes sense to me…

17:51 <whynot> looks like those [ug]id are sourced from Contents/Resources/boinc (whatever it is)

17:52 <dardo82> the problem is that if i tell him not use sandbox (with the -insecure option) it doesn’t care!

17:53 <dardo82> Contents/Resources/boinc is the path of the BOINC client bin inside the BOINC manager OS X app

17:56 <dardo82> #if (defined(__WXMAC__) || defined(_MAC_INSTALLER)) // If called from Mac BOINC Manager or installer         // Get the full path to BOINC Client inside this application's bundle         snprintf(full_path, sizeof(full_path),             "%s/Contents/Resources/boinc", dir_path         );

17:56 <dardo82> from the same page as above…

17:57 <whynot> yes, I've seen it

17:57 <dardo82> ;-)

17:57 <whynot> I see only one problem, what '-insecure' has to do with anything?

17:59 <dardo82> it’s simple, if i just  try to run Contents/Resources/boinc it doesn’t work!

17:59 <dardo82> suggesting to use -insecure to disable sandboxing!

18:00 <dardo82> Mac-mini:Resources dardo82$ ./boinc 12-Jun-2013 00:00:10 [---] No config file found - using defaults File ownership or permissions are set in a way that does not allow sandboxed execution of BOINC applications. To use BOINC anyway, use the -insecure command line option. To change ownership/permission, reinstall BOINC or run  the shell script Mac_SA_Secure.sh. (Error code -1022)

18:01 <whynot> so, in summary,

18:01 <whynot> client says, that it's permissions and data directory permissions are different

18:01 <whynot> they are not

18:03 <whynot> oh, my bad, s/permissions/[ug]id/

18:05 <dardo82> http://pastebin.com/d9Ucmxcu

18:05 <Romulus> Title: Mac-mini:~ dardo82$ cd /Applications/BOINCManager.app/Contents/Resources/ Mac-m - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

18:05 <dardo82> it’s ok,no?

18:08 <whynot> (we've been through this already) yes, clearly they match perfectly

18:08 <whynot> still, client believes it's not the case

18:09 <dardo82> i know, but this time i made it right,using pastebin… 8-)

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18:17 <whynot> I suggest to report it upstream, I'm afraid something has been broken and nobody knows it

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18:18 <whynot> otherwise, you can try to fix it yourself (I'm off, no macos and no time)

18:18 <whynot> otherwise, you can try something older (I'm still 6.12, runs fine)

18:25 <whynot> I'm off, network is going belly up anytime soon

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18:25 <dardo82> report it upstream?

18:38 <desti> https://twitter.com/AMDRadeon/status/344570325549318144/photo/1

18:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/kof76ow> (at twitter.com)

18:39 <dardo82> desti: ?

18:39 <Romulus> desti: is there any group i should add my user to, dardo82

18:39 <dardo82> stupid bot

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19:48 <mactruck> thanks Romulus

19:49 <mactruck> has anyone installed Boinc on a linux server?

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22:11 <Tank_Master> forget desti

22:11 <Tank_Master> forget desti:

22:11 <Romulus> Okay, Tank_Master.

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