IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2013-09-18

00:03 <darwin> http://pastebin.com/1LA7YJvt

00:03 <Romulus> Title: rc.boinc - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)

00:04 <PovAddict> that probably won't work yeah

00:05 <PovAddict> by the time boinccmd runs, the client maybe barely started initializing, it may not be listening for local commands yet

00:05 <PovAddict> why are you "joining" the account manager every time you start it anyway?

00:05 <darwin> it used to work... so I have to change something now?

00:05 <darwin> the script is just designed to be run when the system starts, and not run again

00:05 <darwin> or to stop boinc entirely, then run it again

00:05 <PovAddict> the way you're running boinc& boinccmd& that was always unreliable

00:06 <PovAddict> but I don't know why you're running boinccmd at all; if you attach to the account manager once, it will remember that across restarts

00:07 <darwin> I did not know that

00:07 <darwin> after I run it, the output I get is just the following, many times--I think it keeps on going until I stop boinc: /usr/local/lib64/boinc/boinc:

00:07 <darwin> /usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by /usr/local/lib64/boinc/boinc)

00:07 <darwin> /usr/local/lib64/boinc/boinc: /lib64/libcrypto.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by /usr/local/lib64/boinc/boinc)

00:08 <PovAddict> that's unrelated to the script

00:08 <PovAddict> maybe you upgraded libraries and didn't recompile boinc or something

00:08 <darwin> I did not upgrade libraries or compile BOINC

00:08 <PovAddict> why is boinc in /usr/local?

00:08 <darwin> because I decided to put it there

00:09 <PovAddict> where did you get the binaries from?

00:09 <darwin> boinc.berkeley.edu

00:09 <PovAddict> huh, those are supposed to be statically linked and not even need /usr/lib64/libcurl.so

00:09 <PovAddict> what version? does boinc --version; even work?

00:10 <darwin> the latest on boinc.berkeley.edu for normal use on GNU/Linux x86_64, as long as it was not changed in the last few minutes

00:10 <darwin> 7.0.65 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

00:11 <darwin> that is the output I got from that

00:11 <darwin> besides it also saying there was no version info for three libraries

00:14 <PovAddict> try 'ldd boinc'

00:14 <darwin> I guess I have to add boinc to my path to use that command

00:14 <PovAddict> it will take a full path

00:14 <PovAddict> :)

00:15 <PovAddict> ldd /usr/local/whatever/boinc

00:15 <darwin> I got a huge list

00:15 <darwin> I think Slackware may not have libcrypto

00:15 <PovAddict> what does it say for libcurl?

00:15 <darwin> it has the other two, and their versions are listed in /var/log/packages, but I do not know if they are inside the libraries themselves

00:16 <darwin> ldd said: /usr/local/lib64/boinc/boinc: /usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4: no version information available (required by /usr/local/lib64/boinc/boinc)

00:16 <PovAddict> does that file exist?

00:17 <darwin> yes; the version is listed as: /var/log/packages/curl-7.29.0-x86_64-3_slack14.0

00:23 <darwin> the .so file is linked to another: /usr/lib64/libcurl.so.4 -> libcurl.so.4.3.0*

00:33 <darwin> actually, I guess Slackware does have libcrypto, but it is in /lib64, not /usr/lib64... I am not sure I had seen that directory before

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00:47 <darwin> that means Slackware 14 may have started with libcurl.so.4, but an upgrade to a stable version went to libcurl.so.4.3.0

00:47 <darwin> Slackware did not even have official upgrades, except entire new versions, until a few years ago

00:47 <darwin> and they are only upgrades of stuff to stable versions of new stuff

00:48 <darwin> but the whole problem started for me when Slackware had something like libssl 0.99 but BOINC required 1.0

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00:56 <darwin> PovAddict, are you still helping?

00:56 <PovAddict> I have no idea, looks like a slackware-specific problem

00:59 <darwin> actually, I just ran the two or three commands separately, and it looks like it is working now

00:59 <darwin> so I guess I have to put a 'sleep' between boinc and boincmd, if I still even use the second

01:00 <darwin> I doubt that whatever happened is a Slackware problem

01:00 <PovAddict> ah so those messages were harmless

01:02 <darwin> I am also using the GUI, and it has the option greyed out to use BAM

01:02 <darwin> maybe that is because I used boinccmd

01:02 <darwin> (I have a BAM account)

01:02 <PovAddict> weird o.o

01:03 <darwin> I am trying to see if there is a way to connect to BAM in the GUI without having to add every project every time I start the GUI, or at least every time I start it with a new configuration

01:03 <PovAddict> well, if you don't use BAM, you still have to add your projects only once

01:04 <PovAddict> unless you're losing your data directory every time somehow

01:06 <darwin> I used to do that if I reinstalled, but I do not do that so much as upgrade anymore, and I have boinc in my backup drive now and should see that... but something like that could happen later

01:08 <darwin> apparently I do not even need to use boinccmd if I use the GUI

01:09 <PovAddict> of course, boinccmd isn't even supposed to be a user tool, unless you're on a headless server

01:09 <darwin> I do not see why not

01:23 <darwin> When I was studying, DOS was described to be user-friendly, but some more GUI-based OSes were not

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01:35 <darwin> I added most of my old projects; some seem to be gone, and I suppose there are new ones

01:35 <darwin> but I no longer see any way to set preferences in the GUI, like when I mostly want BOINC to run, or how much resources to use

01:36 <PovAddict> do you have the stupid^W simple GUI maybe?

01:37 <PovAddict> https://scottlinux.com/wp-content/gallery/seti/boinc_manager2.png you should be able to open this, advanced menu IIRC

01:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/kgzsbp2> (at scottlinux.com)

01:47 <darwin> oh; I went to 'options'

01:47 <darwin> not many users really think there is a difference between 'options' and 'preferences'

01:47 <PovAddict> as if the devs had a clue about user interface design

01:48 <darwin> I am glad to get this working again

01:49 <darwin> I am sort of sad to see I am still in the top 3% of people who contributed, after all these years, though it is something I could brag about to some people

01:49 <darwin> that shows not as much work has been done as should have been done

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09:18 <desti_T2> http://home.web.cern.ch/about/updates/2013/09/watch-engineers-install-muon-detector-cms

09:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/p2h8dtq> (at home.web.cern.ch)

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10:49 <desti_T2> http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv

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19:42 <CoderForLife> win7 reboot

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