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02:19 <erikn> Anyone know why?
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02:45 <erikn> Clearly Tamar did not know.
02:45 <efc2> moo, i'll look
02:47 <erikn> Hmm? efc2
02:48 <efc2> stuck at 20% for hours?
02:52 <efc2> if you can look at the messag elog it might be helpful
02:52 <efc2> they've hidden it in recent versions
02:52 <efc2> under advanced, event log
02:52 <efc2> see if anything interesting there
02:54 <erikn> There is nothing interesting (with my novice perspective) in there.
02:54 <erikn> Or at least suggestive that there is an error
02:55 <erikn> However
02:55 <erikn> All the tasks that are running say "Running" next to them
02:55 <erikn> This one says "0.163 CPUs + 1 GPUs"
02:55 <erikn> *+1 ATI GPU"
02:58 <efc2> Oh. Do you have preferences set to allow the GPU?
02:59 <efc2> Or allow it while computer is in use
03:01 <erikn> I think so
03:01 <erikn> All the others go while I am using the computer
03:02 <erikn> Actually, it isn't set that way.
03:02 <erikn> I just set it to Activity -> Run Always and Activity -> Use GPU Always
03:02 <erikn> Apparently it is supposed to override preferences
03:04 <efc2> hmm, well I'd definitely lean towards some problem in allocating the GPU.. yours is doing what mine would do when I'm using the computer (pref: dont use GPU while computer in use)
03:04 <efc2> my GPU task says "waiting to run" though
03:05 <efc2> waiting to run (0.0618 CPU + 1 Nvidia GPU)
03:05 <erikn> I have one stuck like that too
03:05 <efc2> does yours say waiting to run or running?
03:05 <erikn> I have one stuck "Running" at 21 percent
03:05 <erikn> another stuck at "Waiting to run" and says something like what yours does
03:06 <efc2> Try Suspend on the one that is running, see if the stuck one starts
03:06 <erikn> No success
03:10 <efc2> What's the application? (S@H, astropulse, etc, its the last column on the WU)
03:14 <erikn> Seti at home
03:14 <efc2> v7 7.0 ?
03:14 <erikn> 7.0.64
03:15 <erikn> It says "Connect to 7.0.64"
03:15 <efc2> and something about cuda I would guess
03:15 <erikn> *connected
03:15 <erikn> Hmm
03:15 <efc2> wish i could copy and paste from it
03:15 <efc2> under tasks, applications it has the exact application version
03:17 <erikn> It says 7.7
03:17 <erikn> Also, when do tasks get reported?
03:17 <erikn> I have a few done
03:17 <efc2> They'll go eventually, in a day or so
03:17 <efc2> Its not immediate, thats normal
03:17 <erikn> Then I can go online and see if they are signal candidates? :D
03:18 <erikn> If they are signal candidates, will I always be able to discern a pattern in the data displayed on the screensaver?
03:19 <erikn> And about what percent of tasks are candidates?
03:19 <erikn> Also, can we see candidates online?
03:20 <efc2> well, i don't think I've ever actually seen one.. you would probably see it, if you are looking at the right moment, and know what to look for
03:20 <efc2> however there is a lot of junk filtering and it might be determined to be noise.. so its not worth staring at really
03:20 <erikn> How long have you looked? I saw some videos online
03:20 <erikn> Yeah, I know what you mean
03:20 <efc2> a few minutes maybe, and not in forever
03:21 <erikn> Oh
03:21 <efc2> i used to use some software that saved the best ones from the logs and plotted on a map
03:21 <efc2> but haven't run that in a long time
03:21 <erikn> Huh.
03:22 <efc2> it logged all the resulsts and plotted where in the sky they were
03:22 <erikn> That's cool.
03:22 <efc2> and picked the top 3 or something like that
03:23 <erikn> Has SETI come up with anything that they haven't quite been able to write off as interference thus far?
03:23 <efc2> years ago, s@h did select candidates to investigate further. But I haven't heard of them doing it again.
03:23 <erikn> So what is happening now?
03:23 <erikn> It is just stored somewhere?
03:24 <efc2> they store them, i'll look for a sec and see if they ever did another roundup
03:25 <erikn> So the candidates aren't actively being examined?
03:25 <erikn> That's kind of lame
03:27 <efc2> "The most significant candidate is a sourse called Radio source SHGb02+14a which the team revealed in 2004. But even this is an unconvincing candidate. In the area of sky in which it was found, there are no stars within 1000 light years of Earth and most commentators think the signal is probably due to random variation. "
03:28 <efc2> i can't find anything on recent re exams
03:28 <erikn> Aww
03:28 <erikn> Some why is seti@home even still going?
03:28 <efc2> that candidate was from 2004
03:29 <erikn> Is it just for people who want to feel like they are doing something?
03:29 <efc2> i assume they are doing something but not finding much
03:29 <efc2> i think they have made more progress in screening candidates though
03:29 <erikn> Yeah
03:30 <erikn> To which projects do you mostly contribute?
03:31 <efc2> these days just S@H.. have done others in the past
03:32 <efc2> btw, not sure exactly what they are doing, but they've never been publishing candidates in real time or stuff like that
03:32 <erikn> Yeah
03:32 <efc2> b/c of the problem of semi literate press getting a hold of it
03:33 <erikn> That makes sense.
03:33 <erikn> Well, I think they do publish candidates
03:33 <erikn> Just in a way that it isn't embellished.
03:34 <erikn> I saw a page where you could click on a username and it would show you with which signal candidates that person was associated
03:37 <efc2> hmm. That would be nice.
03:40 <erikn> Last updated 2003
03:41 <erikn> I think it would be more interesting if they had that up all the time
03:42 <erikn> You can see a lot of information from the link I posted
03:42 <erikn> Even nearby signals and stuff like that
03:42 <efc2> oh, yeah that from before the current system
03:42 <erikn> It is a better reward for helping than simply a credit number representative of how much you've helped
03:42 <erikn> But it seems like there is a ton of data to churn through
03:43 <erikn> The stuff I'm doing is from my birthday 5 years ago
03:44 <efc2> pooey, i'm not on there. Assuming I was using the same name back then.
03:44 <erikn> How long does your computer take on the average unit? Mine takes 8 hours. However, I have one that is going now that will be done in 1 hour
03:44 <efc2> They may also re-analyze old data with new algorithms sometimes.
03:44 <erikn> Dependent on usage of course
03:45 <erikn> Yeah
03:45 <erikn> And the fact that everything has to be double computed takes a while too
03:45 <efc2> i have a couple going now, from 40 to 100 minutes looks like
03:46 <efc2> the time has something to do with the slew rate of the scope at that time
03:46 <efc2> if its moving fast I think the WU is fast (not as much to do)
03:46 <erikn> Yeah
03:46 <erikn> Kind of like a scanner?
03:46 <efc2> the credit is variable though so you'll get more credit for the slow ones
03:46 <erikn> Like a photograph scanner
03:46 <erikn> Going slowly the file size is huge
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03:47 <efc2> not quite like that, not sure really
03:47 <efc2> i studied it a lot, long ago
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03:48 <efc2> the client is open source so you can read what it does. Or try to read it.
03:48 <erikn> Oh
03:48 <erikn> I could probably only read the comments. :P
03:48 <efc2> Ha. Comments.
03:48 <erikn> Well, maybe the major syntax
03:49 <efc2> they didn't put units on anything, drove me nuts.
03:49 <erikn> lol
03:49 <erikn> Are you just using a pc?
03:49 <efc2> Yes
03:49 <erikn> I'm guessing that most people who hang out in the irc channel are a bit more involved (no offense0
03:49 <erikn> *)
03:50 <efc2> not really
03:50 <efc2> guy PovAddict usually knows whats going on, the rest of us are generally lUsers
03:50 <erikn> 1Users?
03:51 <efc2> Lusers
03:52 <erikn> I still don't know what that means.
03:52 <erikn> Losers?
03:53 <efc2> Lusers=Users=Losers
03:53 <erikn> Oh
03:54 <erikn> I want to get it so that I can remote run boinc on my campus' computers
03:54 <erikn> You can't remote install software, but I think I might be able to remote run it
03:54 <efc2> make sure they are ok with it, blah blah
03:54 <erikn> Oh of course!
03:55 <erikn> It'd be cool if the campus setup their computers to automatically run boinc in the background
03:56 <erikn> After all, they probably update their computers every so often anyways.
03:56 <erikn> Might as well put that spare cpu time to use
03:56 <efc2> Yes, typically they are less than favorable to such ideas.
03:56 <erikn> Primarily because it is expensive and can interfere with productivity
03:56 <efc2> with modern CPUs, it does take extra electricity to run something vs. idle
03:56 <erikn> Yeah
03:56 <efc2> really old CPUs, it made almost no difference
03:56 <erikn> I read that building a boinc farm is expensive
03:57 <efc2> I guess it can be..
03:57 <erikn> If you run 50 computers, you almost pay for the computers all over again every part of a year
03:58 <efc2> come winter, i'll allow more tasks, help with heating
03:59 <efc2> my older computers probably can't run s@h anymore unfortunately
04:01 <efc2> oh.. well maybe so, even my new WUs only have 40 megs
04:02 <efc2> OS support is a problem though, and if they ever drop 2k/XP support it won't help
04:03 <efc2> i tried to get '95 working a while back.. It doesn't.
04:07 <erikn> Hmm
04:08 <erikn> Do you know if the android beta works on the same account?
04:08 <erikn> I might do that since it seems like phones are retired before they actually fail
04:11 <erikn> It will probably burn through battery a lot faster though
04:13 <efc2> no idea, but doesn't seem like something you'd want to run unless on wall power
04:16 <erikn> Well, nice talking to you efc2
04:16 <erikn> I've got to get to bed.
04:16 <erikn> Happy computing!
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04:33 <efc2> got boincLogX installed, somehow I left out the last 700k credits..
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15:59 <xcamel> &wx 12074
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