IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2013-12-27

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17:19 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 46.6F / 8.1C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1020hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Friday - Partly cloudy. Fog early. High of 45F. Winds from the SW at 5 to 20 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Low of 27F with a windchill as low as 21F. Winds from the SW at 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Clear. High of 46F. Winds from (1 more message)

17:19 <wdsmia> &more

17:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: the SSW at 10 to 15 mph.;

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20:43 <PovAddictW> <PovAddictW> I had a series of power outages after that

20:43 <PovAddictW> <AmineKhaldi> oh

20:43 <PovAddictW> <AmineKhaldi> nothing damaged hopefully ?

20:43 <PovAddictW> <PovAddictW> just the social and political stability of the country, nothing important

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21:16 <efc2> Grid still shaky there Pov?

21:24 <efc2> Summer there now, I suppose

21:26 <PovAddictW> I don't think there has been any significant investment in the distribution grid in the past few years

21:26 <PovAddictW> so every summer the same thing, slightly worse than the previous

21:27 <efc2> thats what I was wondering, sounds like a significant investment is needed

21:27 <PovAddictW> they say the problem is distribution, not generation

21:28 <efc2> Dunno what its like there but you can get solar panels at around 50 cents a watt here on a good day

21:29 <PovAddictW> but I'm not sure... maybe local transformers blowing up and causing small-scale outages, are acting as escape valves that happen to keep the generation grid within limits :P

21:30 <PovAddictW> efc2: gasoline-powered generators are a few *times* more expensive now than during winter

21:30 <PovAddictW> supply and demand at work

21:35 <efc2> if its bad enough and you have the money you could ditch the grid.. requires some bravery and capital investment

21:37 <PovAddictW> I have a UPS for my desktop PC, lasts about 15 minutes (with idle CPU of course)

21:39 <efc2> I keep trying to talk myself into buying something, but have no good place to deploy right now. Might go for some small 12v panels to play with for fun.

21:40 <PovAddictW> batteries are the Real Problem, aren't they?

21:42 <efc2> Yes, expensive, more or less toxic, limited lifespan

21:43 <PovAddictW> I still have a "spent" UPS battery around

21:43 <efc2> with UPSs they seem to be good for one or two discharge cycles

21:44 <efc2> undersized, so they are destroyed quickly

21:44 <PovAddictW> feels like having spent nuclear fuel; "now what do I do with it for the next 100000 years?"

21:45 <efc2> We can recycle those fairly easily here. Many stores will take them. Either auto battery or consumer AA/D etc size. They don't really expect the SLAs but will take them.

21:46 <PovAddictW> this is easier in the business world

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21:47 <PovAddictW> I think large companies even have to provide paperwork to prove they are recycling UPS batteries

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