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07:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -8.0F / -22.2C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.79in / 1042hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tuesday - Partly cloudy. Fog early. High of 21F. Winds less than 5 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening, then overcast with a chance of snow. Low of 10F. Winds from the South at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 30%.; Wednesday (1 more message)

07:59 <wdsmia> &more

07:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: - Overcast with a chance of snow in the morning, then partly cloudy. High of 30F with a windchill as low as 3F. Winds from the SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 20%.;

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09:36 <marbus90> hi, does someone know how to enable support for x86 WUs on debian amd64?

09:36 <PovAddict> what version of BOINC?

09:36 <Romulus> hmm... what version of BOINC are you using, PovAddict

09:36 <PovAddict> shutup bot

09:37 <marbus90> 7.4.23+dfsg-1

09:37 <PovAddict> it should happen automatically

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09:38 <marbus90> specifically I'm wondering why the clean energy project/wcg only crunches on my single windows node, but none of the 5 debian clients... I thought it has something to do with x86 only WUs

09:40 <marbus90> 4 nodes have at least 1GB RAM per core, so it should be enough...

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21:15 <PovAddict> zombie67: heh, someone complaining about my project

21:15 <zombie67> who?

21:15 <PovAddict> https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://forum.boinc-af.org/index.php/topic,6411.msg406955.html%3FPHPSESSID%3Df7r47ihu1sbs4gdcthrle6sda4&usg=ALkJrhiPlwu_89D7r9jz3ad3OsaqP2CAsw#msg406955

21:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/keqp6zp> (at translate.googleusercontent.com)

21:16 <PovAddict> not sciency enough for his tastes :P

21:18 <zombie67> haters gonna hate

21:18 <PovAddict> https://just-dice.com/form.jpg

21:19 <zombie67> hah!  That is an updated version of a form from back in the 90s

21:19 <PovAddict> :D

21:21 <zombie67> check your gmail inbox

21:23 <PovAddict> haha, good old usenet

21:23 <zombie67> ___ your post/mail originated on FidoNet.

21:23 <zombie67> ___ your post/mail originated on Delphi.

21:23 <zombie67> ___ your post referred to the newsgroup as a Board, BBoard, BBS, or

21:23 <zombie67> new version has message boards, blogs, etc.

21:24 <PovAddict> what was delphi?

21:25 <zombie67> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_(online_service)

21:25 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ldwb8xh> (at en.wikipedia.org)

21:25 <zombie67> Delphi Forums is a former U.S. online service provider and since the mid 1990s has been a community internet forum site. It started as a nationwide dialup service in 1983. Delphi Forums remains active as of 2013, claiming 4 million registered members and "more than 8,000 active Forums

21:28 <zombie67> renderfarm question:  Will you eventually release an osx app?

21:28 <zombie67> I forgot your answer when I asked earlier.

21:31 <PovAddict> tasks for tomorrow:

21:31 <PovAddict> - test and release the osx app I already compiled

21:31 <zombie67> weeee!

21:32 <PovAddict> - rebuild windows app for XP compat

21:32 <PovAddict> - send the rest of this WU batch (I sent only a few, noticed I screwed up, fixed it, and sent only a few of the fixed version, once I get results back I'll send the rest)

21:32 <PovAddict> - get a haircut before I can't see the screen

21:33 <zombie67> all worthy tasks.

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21:35 <zombie67> Sig seen on alt.law-enforcement:

21:35 <zombie67> You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance.

21:35 <zombie67>    - Edward Flaherty

21:35 <zombie67> impressive insult!

21:36 <PovAddict> i see wuprop has a list of new projects it extracts from what its users report

21:37 <PovAddict> and at least four teams published the project in their forums (including yours)

21:37 <PovAddict> and googlebot picked it up too, so I guess all the boinc addicts will be coming soon

21:37 <zombie67> Yes, wuprop does that.  It is a source I use to find new projects.

21:37 <zombie67> Yes, I posted.  But you said I could.

21:38 <PovAddict> yep

21:38 <zombie67> googlebot?

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21:38 <PovAddict> = it's indexed by google

21:38 <PovAddict> so it should appear somewhere in https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22This%20project%20uses%20BOINC%22 for example :P

21:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/p6bjp5b> (at encrypted.google.com)

21:38 <zombie67> ah.  I thought you were referring to a BOINC hunting bot

21:39 <zombie67> why did you choose that particular string?  "This project uses BOINC"

21:39 <PovAddict> it's in the default home page of boinc projects

21:40 <zombie67> ahhh

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21:58 <PovAddict> wow someone already finished

21:59 <PovAddict> sethiroth66: you're the first one to finish one of these tasks

22:07 <zombie67> Ah!  Tasks!

22:08 <PovAddict> yeah, I looked at sethiroth66's results and they look fine to me, so I opened the floodgates :)

22:10 <zombie67> all my win7 machines and my two linux VMs are on it.

22:10 <zombie67> oh yeah, when are you going to export stats?

22:11 <PovAddict> I wonder if stats websites would have trouble with the project name

22:12 <zombie67> RAM us ~380 per task.  Does that grow?

22:13 <zombie67> or a fixed amount?

22:13 <zombie67> just curious

22:13 <PovAddict> it's very stable throughout the task

22:13 <PovAddict> I should make higher-ram tasks for next batch

22:14 <PovAddict> larger tasks, less tasks to do

22:17 <zombie67> I like the latest post.  Make two apps, MT and ST.  Then let the user choose in preferences.

22:23 <PovAddict> I also tried to implement the fractal flame algorithm myself, got nowhere

22:23 <PovAddict> intentionally simplistic flame http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/flam3.png

22:23 <PovAddict> what my code comes up with http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/mine.png

22:23 <PovAddict> ._.

22:28 <zombie67> Does this project have a new URL?  if so, then no problem with the stats sites.

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22:29 <PovAddict> zombie67: yes, this project has a new URL, but the same name

22:29 <PovAddict> I guess they'd have to rename the old one to avoid making it confusing

22:30 <zombie67> there are only a few stats sites any more.  Just ask them to rename the old.

22:31 <zombie67> I know Bok (Free-DC) is open to whatever you like.

22:33 <zombie67> willy (boincstats) is craky, but reasonable.

22:36 <PovAddict> the other option is that I dig up the old renderfarm database

22:42 <zombie67> hah

22:54 <PovAddict> zombie67: jeeesus, did you grab all the tasks?

22:54 <PovAddict> how many computers did you attach?!

22:54 * PovAddict keeps scrolling the log

22:56 <zombie67> 4x windows machines, and 2x linux machines.  Oh yeah, and a HUGE FARM.  :D

22:56 <PovAddict> my internet went slow from all of them downloading the app at the same time

22:57 <PovAddict> :D

22:57 <zombie67> sorry.

22:57 <zombie67> that should be a one-time thing

22:57 <PovAddict> yeap

22:57 <zombie67> now that they are all attached

22:58 <zombie67> when you update apps, they will do it only as they contact as needed.

22:58 <PovAddict> do you own all that hardware? or is it VPSs or something like that?

23:07 <zombie67> A friend's farm.  We help each other.  I provide GPU for him, he provides CPU for me.

23:07 <zombie67> real farm

23:08 <zombie67> these are not many fake VMs that would result in slower crunching.

23:09 <PovAddict> does he mine bitcoins with the GPUs? :p

23:10 <zombie67> Heh.  We don't trade actual HW

23:11 <PovAddict> looks like many downloads were interrupted and are resuming where they left off

23:11 <zombie67> that is good

23:13 <PovAddict> what tool do you use to attach them all at the same time?

23:13 <PovAddict> just call boinccmd?

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23:14 <zombie67> I do not.  Like I said, it's his farm.  He attaches his clients using my credentials.

23:15 <zombie67> I do the same, but for GPU projects

23:15 <zombie67> he has scripts for his linux machines

23:16 <zombie67> oh look!  A stranger has joined!

23:16 * Mumps looks around for the stranger

23:17 <PovAddict> http://renderfarm.povaddict.com.ar/workunit.php?wuid=308 I wonder what Abandoned means

23:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/na5w4o4> (at renderfarm.povaddict.com.ar)

23:20 <zombie67> no idea.  Maybe when a client detaches or resets?

23:24 <Mumps> That host has nothing in the stdout.txt indicating it ever was sent a task.

23:24 <Mumps> Not sure how to interpret that.

23:24 <PovAddict> maybe the network was so overloaded that the reply didn't reach your client :P

23:25 <Mumps> Possibly the project said it'd send the WU, but the host never accepted it?

23:25 <Mumps> I've got a lot of my hosts going through a Proxy to try to throttle things a bit...

23:26 <Mumps> Not super successfully it seems.  :)

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23:30 <Mumps> the Proxy helps, but then I set to do 8 transfers at a time per host which kinda works towards the opposite end.  :)

23:31 <PovAddict> if it was a *caching* proxy, your network would have downloaded the file only once :)

23:31 <Mumps> Well, I need to learn more about setting up Squid for that.

23:31 <Mumps> Right now, it's a basic, almost default, config.

23:32 <Mumps> I thought it should have been caching, but it hasn't seemed to be working quite that way.

23:32 <Mumps> IIRC, I only changed 3 settings from the stock install for Ubuntu 12.04

23:33 <Mumps> Just enough to get it to work.  :)

23:33 <Mumps> originally had problems because BOINC expects responses to HTTP 100 errors IIRC.  So I found a tweak to get around that.

23:40 <zombie67> pov, I attached all my macs.  ready for the app.

23:43 <Mumps> And a few more WU's too please.  :)

23:44 <Mumps> Only got work for 3/4's of the hosts I attached.

23:45 <PovAddict> if I had known you'd attach this much, I'd have limited the tasks per host further :P

23:46 <Mumps> Only have 50% of the work that you have out in the wild right now.

23:46 <Mumps> Most of the hosts only got a single WU.  Which is fine.

23:47 <Mumps> Only noticed one that got 6.

23:47 <zombie67> :D

23:48 <PovAddict> I redirected the app downloads to filebin.ca now :P

23:48 <Mumps> Yup.  Of the 125 hosts that got work, only one got 6 WU's, and another 2.  All the rest only 1 each.

23:50 <PovAddict> I don't want your electricity bill

23:50 <PovAddict> :)

23:50 <Mumps> Me neither.  :)

23:53 <zombie67> Let's render!  Dun dun dun!

23:54 <Mumps> I've been so wanting to render, but Burp and renderfarm.fi are limited work really...

23:54 <zombie67> BRUP has problems.  And RF is broken.

23:55 <Mumps> Exactly.

23:55 <Mumps> Even the Burp web pages are broke.

23:55 <zombie67> But!  BURP made a movie, and I am in the credits!

23:55 <PovAddict> okay, 2am

23:55 <PovAddict> time I wasn't here

23:56 <PovAddict> oh btw

23:56 <PovAddict> is it true BURP doesn't have and never had checkpoints?

23:56 <zombie67> http://www.setiusa.us/showthread.php?6183-BURP-BOINC-rendered-movie-released

23:56 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/n7a9baw> (at www.setiusa.us)

23:57 <zombie67> yes, true

23:57 <zombie67> At around 9:50, they list all the BOINC crunchers who contributed. For example, I see Mumps at 9:56, STE\/E at 10:00, and I am at 10:04.

23:58 <zombie67> POV, gn.  In the AM you should have most of your render complete.

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