IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2015-11-01

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08:24 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

08:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 55.2F / 12.9C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.2mph / 0.3km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy early this morning...then becoming partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Cooler with lows in the lower 40s. Light and (1 more message)

08:24 <CoderForLife> &more

08:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: variable winds.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds around 5 mph.;

08:26 <CoderForLife> back from a week on the Outer Banks of North Carolina

08:28 <CoderForLife> good to actually get away for the first time in a long time

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18:54 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 59.0F / 15.0C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds around 5 mph early this evening...becoming light and variable.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds around 5 mph.; Monday Night - Clear. Lows in (1 more message)

18:56 <CoderForLife> &more

18:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the mid 40s. East winds around 5 mph.;

19:19 <efc386> moo cfl

19:19 <efc386> &wx 30625

19:19 <Romulus> efc386: Temperature: 65.1F / 18.4C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Near steady temperature in the lower 60s. Light east winds. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Monday - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall (1 more message)

19:19 <CoderForLife> moo efc386

19:19 <efc386> &more

19:19 <Romulus> efc386: possible. Highs in the lower 70s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. Light northeast winds.; Areal Flood Watch for Morgan County in effect until 7:00 PM EST on November 02, 2015;

19:20 <efc386> I'm about to begin a new error in computation

19:20 <CoderForLife> how's that 386 humming?

19:20 <efc386> bought a sparcstation 10

19:20 <CoderForLife> you DO like dumpster diving

19:20 <efc386> fabulous.. had to reconfigure it after not running for a few months

19:20 <efc386> I can stop any time

19:21 <CoderForLife> what OS is running on that 386

19:21 <efc386> debian potato

19:21 <CoderForLife> how much RAM?

19:21 <efc386> 32 megs

19:22 <efc386> 40 mhz DX, but i think something is wrong with it, like it runs in de-turbo mode

19:22 <efc386> slower than it should be

19:22 <efc386> i need a lab facility to figure that out

19:22 <CoderForLife> wow - I guess I topped out at the limitations of Windows 386 on a 386

19:23 <efc386> in the past, i've run '95 and NT 3.51 on it.. was ok

19:23 <CoderForLife> I remember how thrilled I was when I got my first 286

19:24 <efc386> i'm curious to see how the SS10 will do. on paper, looks very capable for the time.

19:24 <CoderForLife> such power

19:24 <CoderForLife> Sparc was the gold standard in it's day

19:24 <efc386> circa '93, max 512 megs of ram, 2 cpus (or 4 if you like fires)

19:25 <efc386> i'll have to see how quake and boinc run on it

19:25 <CoderForLife> I remember visiting Sun Microsystems just after they abandoned their experiments with Intel, and decided to "put all of their wood behind one arrowhead - Sparc".

19:25 <efc386> my guess is that it isn't as fast as the numbers make it sound

19:25 <efc386> ah yeah the 386i

19:26 <CoderForLife> I'm talking about like 1986 or 87

19:26 <efc386> don't really know what the problem with that setup was

19:26 <CoderForLife> Visited Sun in San Jose

19:26 <efc386> 386 throwing away the PC baggage could be pretty powerful

19:27 <CoderForLife> We were considering porting our Unisys terminal emulation and file transfer capabilities to the Sparc and Solaris

19:28 <CoderForLife> Since we're talking Sun, this would have been a good one for PocAddict to be in

19:28 <efc386> unisys made some nice multi 386 boxes, like 4 or 16 CPUs.. I'd definitely pick one of those out of the garbage.

19:28 <efc386> when he's around I'll ask.. I have to know how well quake ran on them

19:28 <efc386> It must be installed on all platforms.

19:29 <CoderForLife> I programmed the Burroughs BTOS machines, which were OEMed from Convergent Technologies boxes

19:29 <efc386> That's going back a ways

19:29 <CoderForLife> (nods, sadly)

19:29 <CoderForLife> I go back aways

19:29 <efc386> if there's a B5000 in your dumpster, I'll take that too.

19:30 <efc386> it looks like support has started to atrophy for SPARC, esp in the last few years.. debian dropped it in 2014

19:31 <efc386> SPARC32 that is, not sure about 64

19:31 <CoderForLife> I'm trying to remember the models of Burroughs "mainframes" we had - seems like a B1 and a B12.

19:31 <CoderForLife> Programmed in ALGOL

19:32 <CoderForLife> Our Sperry Univac stuff was programmed in assembly language

19:33 <efc386> mmm, do you drink the blood of the living to maintain your youth?

19:34 <CoderForLife> dang - you've seen through my disguise

19:34 <CoderForLife> of course, I can't see my own reflection in the mirror

19:35 <CoderForLife> I just tacked on another century, I mean year, recently.

19:35 <efc> Congratulations and condolences.

19:36 <CoderForLife> this the nature of things

19:36 <CoderForLife> tis

19:37 <efc> my oldest thing i was ever paid to work on.. probably the fairchild 9445

19:37 <efc> a Nova instruction processor

19:37 <efc> data general

19:38 <CoderForLife> Hmm

19:38 <efc> and microVAX for a little while

19:42 <CoderForLife> My senior year of college I was programming 5 things at the same time: Apple ][ in Applesoft Basic and 6502 assemply language, 8085 single board processor in 8085 assembly language, AIM-65 6502 single board processor in 6502 assembly language, Amdahl 470 mainframe in assembler and FORTRAN, and the DEC PDP-11/60 running the RSx-11M operating systems in Pascal.  When I sat down at a keyboard, it took me a few minutes to switch gears.

19:44 <CoderForLife> for some reason I kept confusing the Apple disk drive activation command (something like "PR#5") with the PDP print command (something like "PR").

19:45 <efc> I'm glad you have mostly recovered.

19:47 <CoderForLife> uh yuppa

19:48 <CoderForLife> I starting to learn Python now

19:48 <efc> the 9445 assembly was interesting. it was a 16 bit RISC.

19:48 <efc> there were no conditional jumps, but you could set a bit and conditionally skip the next instruction.

19:48 <CoderForLife> well, not so many insturctions to learn

19:49 <efc> only 4 registers, but it had a bunch of autoincrement and decrement memory locations.

19:49 <CoderForLife> interesting

19:57 <efc386> the 386 does most things reasonably, but unpacking bz2, bz etc is not one of them

19:57 <CoderForLife> Assembler on IBM and Amdahl mainframes is "CISC", but I never found it to be all that compact.  16 registers, general purpose, but with some expected uses, such as one that was expected to have the return address to go back to the code that called your code (regsiter 14).  IBM actually as a program that comess with their standard library called IEFBR14.  It only does the BR 14 instruction - "branch on register 14", which just returns.

19:57 <efc386> so package installing is slooooow

19:58 <CoderForLife> A whole program that "does nothing".  It's used to allocate datasets and such.

19:58 <efc> hmm

19:58 <efc386> the SPARC does this weird register window thing. I don't quite get it.

19:59 <efc386> its likely not important that I do.

19:59 <CoderForLife> Soon it's genius will envelope you

20:00 <CoderForLife> While on vacation last week I become interested in learning more about quantum computing

20:12 <CoderForLife> vacation is over tomorrow - back to work - GN efc386 and all

21:11 <efc> &nn

21:11 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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