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00:00 <efc> Zotac, its a name you trust
00:02 <Soul_keeper> lo
00:02 <Soul_keeper> lol
00:07 <Soul_keeper> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/05/via_isaiah/ via is pathetic, they were talking about Isaiah 4yrs ago saying it would be released 2yrs ago
00:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/55jg2t> (at www.theregister.co.uk)
00:07 <Soul_keeper> Texas instruments or someone needs to get into the x86 market
00:10 <efc> I think they dumped the engineering people or something
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00:17 <Soul_keeper> you have to fill out all your personal information to recieve a quote on a 5GHz ibm power6 system
00:18 <efc> Name: Ivan Wakinov
00:20 <Soul_keeper> how much does an entry level IBM power6 system cost (ballpark figure) is all i want to know
00:22 <efc> blade system? workstation?
00:23 <Soul_keeper> The base Express 520 box (technically the 8203 machine in IBM's configurator) comes with one 4.2 GHz core, 2 GB of memory, and two 73.4 GB disks; it costs $5,576
00:24 <Soul_keeper> just a dual core setup price is all i want
00:24 <Soul_keeper> The two-core variant costs $11,765 with 4 GB of memory and two disks
00:25 <Soul_keeper> With four cores in the 520 Express plus 8 GB of memory and the two disks, the cost of the machine rises to $16,994.
00:26 <Soul_keeper> they say the 4.7GHz dual core performs roughly the same as a 2.xGHz c2d
00:35 <efc> if you get a decent vid card on a dell who makes it?
00:51 <efc> the dell 24" is on for $600, the 27" for $800 .. hmm
01:00 <Soul_keeper> http://www.itjungle.com/tug/tug013108-story01.html
01:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5pn7np> (at www.itjungle.com)
01:02 <efc> If you want flops that bad, start writing VHDL for me :p
01:02 <Soul_keeper> how will that work ?
01:03 <efc> Feed the FPGA machine
01:03 <Soul_keeper> isn't that stuff for caluclators ?
01:03 <efc> Reconfigurable chips
01:03 <Soul_keeper> can you actually make something from that to run boinc ?
01:04 <efc> With a lot of work, yes, I have been looking at it for some time
01:04 <efc> Depends a lot on the app how suitable it is
01:04 <efc> Ideally the app would do an obscene amount of simple work
01:04 <Soul_keeper> can you outperform a core2 quad ?
01:06 <efc> Still working it out, the theoretical peak for one model (~$50) is about 11 gflops, but hard to keep it that busy. Might get half that.
01:06 <efc> So probably not, but they are or would be cheaper, and much less power
01:07 <efc> Its a lot of work though. seti@home is really complicated to do in hardware.
01:08 <Soul_keeper> ic
01:09 <efc> something like the old RC5 project would be excellent. Kick the chestnuts out of any CPU.
01:09 <efc> All integer, low memory bandwidth.
01:11 <efc> I think what you would do is have a hacked BOINC that thinks it has 100 cores
01:11 <efc> And a hacked science app that sends the work to the hardware and reads it back later
01:15 <Soul_keeper> i remember a few years back, someone was selling a giant motherboard with like 50 processors of some kind on it, it was being marketed as a brute force password/encryption cracker
01:15 <Soul_keeper> i wonder what kind of processors those were
01:16 <efc> EFF did something like that for a DES cracker
01:16 <efc> I think they used ASICs for it
01:16 <efc> FPGAs not good enough then
01:17 <efc> ASICs is better of course if you can afford it
01:17 <efc> like, the $50 FPGA i'm looking at has 1.5 million gate equiv, gets around 130 mhz in floating point
01:18 <efc> that nvidia chip has probably 750 million gate equiv @ 1 ghz or more
01:20 <efc> they have a lot better FPGAs but they get expensive, thousands apiece, negates the speed advantage
01:21 <efc> the high end ones have hundreds of multipliers, and a built in PowerPC core or two
01:22 <efc> a couple hundred k onboard ram (cache sort of)
01:23 <Soul_keeper> nice
01:25 <efc> xilinx has a dev board for sale, $1200, hmm, probably a good deal if I knew what I was doing
01:33 <efc> heck the powerPC cores alone sound decent
01:34 <efc> could easily port the app to that core, then (not as easily) slowly break out parts to the other part of the chip
01:41 <efc> yeah, $582 for a Virtex5, no joy
01:48 <efc> but 190 gflops
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02:11 <d00m1001> BOINC
02:11 <d00m1001> (goes the weasel)
02:11 <d00m1001> oh wait, that's Pop
02:11 <d00m1001> :( nvm...
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03:01 <Didactylos> - WINSETUP: Suppress the reboot prompt and just reboot, since we
03:01 <Didactylos> have already informed the user it is needed on the conformation
03:01 <Didactylos> screen
03:01 <Didactylos> Worse Than Failure.
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04:11 <Immundus> hello
04:14 <Immundus> anybody running boinc on debian on a powerpc mac?
04:17 <Immundus> anybody here at all?
04:20 <desti> ZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
04:20 <Immundus> didnt mean to wake anybody
04:21 <CoderForLife> s'ok
04:21 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.4°F / 16.9°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy early...then becoming mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. Light and variable winds...becoming west 5 to 10 mph late this morning and afternoon. Chance (1 more message)
04:22 <CoderForLife> &more
04:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;
04:22 <desti> sollte aber gehen boinc on ppc
04:23 <Immundus> yes it should but it keeps saying its an unknown plattform if I try to connect
04:23 <Immundus> and if I use the anonymous plattform
04:23 <Immundus> I get computational errors almost instantly
04:23 <desti> what project?
04:23 <Romulus> I guess what project are we talking about, desti
04:24 <Immundus> seti
04:27 <desti> do you have all needed libs for the application?
04:27 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:27 <Immundus> installed it from the repository of debian they should supply them
04:28 <Immundus> enjoy CoderForLife
04:29 <desti> they have a seti app too or do you mean boinc framework?
04:29 <Immundus> the whole framework and the seti app
04:31 <Immundus> all installed
04:32 <desti> maybe you should try an third party app
04:32 <Immundus> problem is finding one
04:33 <desti> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/DownloadOther
04:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6f8g6p> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
04:35 <Immundus> thanks
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04:45 <Immundus> got to go course is about to end
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05:26 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%
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06:29 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - Friiiiiday
06:50 <hawmps> 'lo
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07:21 <paul_> haha
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07:21 <surrealillusion> yes indeed, its finally Friday!
07:21 <surrealillusion> whooo
07:56 <quail> evening all
07:56 <quail> surrealillusion: it friday night here
07:56 <quail> surrealillusion: I fixed my cache problem
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08:34 <chanueting> I would like to ask what "GUI RPC bind failed: 98" means
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08:54 <hawmps> &boincerr 98
08:54 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: I couldn't find 98 in boincerr.
08:55 <hawmps> hmmm...
08:55 <hawmps> dunno..
08:59 <chanueting> Do you use FC9?
09:00 <hawmps> 7/8
09:00 <hawmps> did you install selinux?
09:00 <chanueting> I would like to know how do you set up?
09:01 <chanueting> SELinux, isn't it a default feature?
09:01 <chanueting> Do you follow http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_on_Linux#Fedora_7_and_up?
09:01 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6jzkgp> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
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09:17 <PovAdct_w> chanueting: GUIRPC bind failed usually means the client is already running and having the GUIRPC port open
09:17 <PovAdct_w> SELinux is of course another to consider
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09:21 <chanueting> How to solve it?
09:21 <PovAdct_w> hard to tell if we haven't figured out the real problem yet
09:21 <PovAdct_w> if the client is already running, just don't try to start it again :P
09:21 <chanueting> But shouldn't the GUI RPC port open
09:22 <chanueting> But shouldn't the GUI RPC port open?
09:22 <PovAdct_w> you can't run two clients at the same time
09:24 <PovAdct_w> error 98 is address already in use
09:24 <chanueting> I see, how about SELinux?
09:25 <PovAdct_w> first double-check if there is a boinc process running...
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09:25 <PovAdct_w> ...
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09:25 <hawmps> from a console scree just run 'killall boinc' and see what happens
09:26 <chanueting> with root?
09:26 <hawmps> yes
09:26 <hawmps> or sudo
09:26 <chanueting> boinc: no process killed
09:27 <hawmps> ok - it's all stopped them
09:27 <hawmps> last check... ps ax | grep boinc
09:28 <hawmps> are you running boinc from run_manger?
09:28 <chanueting> I have posted on http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=47663 and all my jobs are suspended
09:28 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5fn5k8> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
09:29 <chanueting> run_manger?
09:29 <PovAdct_w> run "netstat -ltp" as root and see what program has *:31416 open
09:29 <hawmps> o mheavens - that post - just means seti was offline at the time...
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09:30 <hawmps> pr your dns was fraked at that time
09:30 <chanueting> But there is tcp 0 0 localhost.localdomain:xqosd *:* LISTEN 4487/boinc_client
09:30 <PovAdct_w> it couldn't connect to bam.boincstats.com either; so it's a DNS problem, not on SETI's side
09:30 <chanueting> I don't know what is happening, sigh
09:30 <hawmps> that would be my guess too.
09:30 <PovAdct_w> chanueting: then the client is already running, so don't try to start it again
09:31 <PovAdct_w> and you won't get any "GUI RPC bind failed: 98"
09:31 <chanueting> what is the main problem of that error message: Couldn't resolve host name?
09:32 <hawmps> bad dns.
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09:33 <chanueting> what bad dns?
09:33 <chanueting> I can get online
09:33 <PovAdct_w> boinc can't ;)
09:33 <chanueting> how to solve it?
09:34 <chanueting> Is it the reason of firewall?
09:34 <chanueting> I just follow the guide of http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_on_Linux#Fedora_7_and_up
09:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6jzkgp> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
09:34 <PovAdct_w> maybe; but I don't recall ever seeing firewalls on Linux doing that kind of stupid thing
09:35 <PovAdct_w> (blocking things per process)
09:35 <chanueting> what is the means of boinc cannot get online?
09:36 <chanueting> Isn't it use the global settings?
09:41 <chanueting> Could you please explain a little bit more?
09:42 <PovAdct_w> if I understood it...
09:42 <chanueting> or is there any solution?
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09:52 <chanueting> Should I reinstall BOINC?
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09:52 <PovAdct_w> won't change a thing
09:53 <PovAdct_w> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration <- enable http_debug in cc_config.xml, restart BOINC; will give more detailed messages about what's going on with the network communication
09:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/55ypmz> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
09:54 <exco> hello
09:55 <chanueting> where the cc_config.xml is?
09:55 <exco> is it normal that there is a php error when opening ..._ops dir "fopen(../cache/remote.revision) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied..." or does it just mean I have my permissions wrong?
09:58 <quail> howdy PovAdct_w
09:58 <PovAdct_w> you have your permissions wrong, exco
09:59 <PovAdct_w> chanueting: unless fedora package has it as an extra... it doesn't exist, you have to make it
09:59 <chanueting> make for what?
09:59 <PovAdct_w> you have to create the file yourself
10:00 <PovAdct_w> not sure where you put it in fedora
10:00 <quail> PovAdct_w: I got my cache sorted out :-)
10:00 <PovAdct_w> quail: different kernel version?
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10:01 <chanueting> is there any command for searching in linux?
10:01 <quail> PovAdct_w: I resetted my bios, I think it had to do with I had acpi 2.0 support turned on
10:02 <quail> PovAdct_w: this how it looks now >>> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4443449
10:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/63dht8> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
10:02 <PovAdct_w> do you have the cache file in /sys now?
10:02 <quail> PovAdct_w: and now I have all the cache directories you were talking about
10:02 <PovAdct_w> cool
10:03 <quail> so it all sweet now
10:03 <quail> PovAdct_w: so it looks like I had something set wrong in my bios
10:03 <PovAdct_w> do you use bash?
10:04 <quail> yes
10:04 <PovAdct_w> for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cache/index*; do echo L$(cat $i/level) $(cat $i/type) $(cat $i/size); done
10:08 <exco> thanks, PovAdct_w, shouldn't owner and group be "boincadmin"?
10:09 <exco> well... there just is no file ../cache/remote.revision... that explains that
10:09 <PovAdct_w> it's trying to *create* one and failing
10:09 <chanueting> PovAdct_w: Does it mean that I have to type in < http_debug>1</ http_debug>?
10:10 <exco> but if "boincadmin" is in apache group and owner of the folder "cache" schouldn't it be able to create said file, PovAdct_w
10:11 <PovAdct_w> chanueting: yes
10:11 <chanueting> Okay
10:11 <PovAdct_w> exco: what's the owner/group/permissions of the cache directory?
10:12 <PovAdct_w> chanueting: should be in /var/lib/boinc right?
10:12 <chanueting> yes
10:12 <chanueting> but how to restart?
10:13 <PovAdct_w> hmm like any other system service; I don't know about Fedora
10:13 <chanueting> I see
10:14 <quail> PovAdct_w: I can't get that to work properly
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10:15 <chanueting> PovAdct_w: restarted
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10:15 <PovAdct_w> click Update on the project, and watch messages tab
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10:16 <chanueting> Update on the project? you mean in the GUI?
10:16 <PovAdct_w> yes
10:16 <PovAdct_w> project tab
10:19 <chanueting> http://fpaste.org/paste/2900
10:19 <Romulus> Title: Fedora Pastebin - Viewing paste #2900 (at fpaste.org)
10:19 <PovAdct_w> seems to work now
10:19 <PovAdct_w> might have been just a temporary DNS problem
10:21 <chanueting> sigh, can I delete the cc_config now?
10:22 <PovAdct_w> yeah
10:22 <PovAdct_w> oh and actually you didn't need to restart
10:22 <PovAdct_w> in boinc manager, Advanced menu, Re-read configuration file
10:22 <chanueting> I had tried that
10:23 <chanueting> Though the PC is back online, there are many jobs are suspended, any ideas?
10:23 <exco> sorry for taking so long, PovAdct_w permission: drwxr-sr-x 2 boincadmin boincadmin 4096 2008-05-13 16:11 cache
10:24 <PovAdct_w> hmm should be g+w
10:24 <PovAdct_w> allow write permission for group
10:25 <PovAdct_w> actually wait...
10:25 <PovAdct_w> ah yeah I'm right... it should have 02770 permissions
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10:27 <exco> you're the man, PovAdct_w (shame on me)
10:28 <chanueting> PovAdct_w: Is it needed to stop boinc before delete cc_config
10:28 <PovAdct_w> no
10:28 <exco> PovAdct_w: should I apply 770 to the whole projects folder?
10:29 <PovAdct_w> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ServerIntro#permissions
10:29 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6hrm4w> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
10:32 <exco> thanks. Set my group wrong (boincadmin instead of boinc)
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10:32 <PovAdct_w> the group name doesn't really matter
10:33 <exco> well but apache belongs to boinc not boincadmin
10:33 <PovAdct_w> ah :P
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10:33 <PovAdct_w> doesn't matter what you call it, but call it the same everywhere :D
10:34 <PovAdct_w> what matters is your current permissions didn't allow group to write
10:34 <exco> I'm just trying to follow a tutorial (since I'm not that familiar with linux)
10:35 <chanueting> PovAdct_w: Have you seen this error before?
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11:01 <chanueting> Thanks, PovAdct_w
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11:15 <mwalling> ls
11:15 <mwalling> fail
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13:04 <Soul_keeper> good work
13:06 <PovAdct_w> grab the fire extinguisher, for I am about to click Send
13:07 <Soul_keeper> :_
13:07 <Soul_keeper> :)
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13:27 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:47:866] Queen - We Are The Champoins
13:45 <mwalling> *slap*
13:47 <Soul_keeper> http://www.magnetoolinc.com/electromagnets_lowprofile.htm two of those 6" long electromagnets should be sufficient for a single hard drive
13:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5af4es> (at www.magnetoolinc.com)
13:47 <Soul_keeper> what do you think ?
13:47 <Romulus> It has been said that what do you think is a good monthly price to store 100 GBs on a file server without any bandwidth restrictions, Soul_keeper
13:49 <Soul_keeper> that's ok i hate you too ...
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13:52 <efc> moo
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14:54 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001
14:54 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 87.1°F / 30.6°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms this evening. Lows in the mid 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the (1 more message)
14:55 <jackygrahamez> &more
14:55 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. West winds around 5 mph... becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;
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15:24 <wdsmia> re-hi
15:24 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
15:24 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 88.0°F / 31.1°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. A slight chance of thunderstorms late in the morning...then scattered thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 80s. Southwest wind near 5 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly (1 more message)
15:24 <wdsmia> &more
15:24 <Romulus> wdsmia: cloudy with a 30 percent chance of thunderstorms. Low in the lower 60s. West wind near 5 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 80s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 7:00 PM CDT on June 21, 2008;
15:25 <PovAddict> &dict abroad
15:25 <Romulus> PovAddict: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: abroad adj : in a foreign country; "markets abroad"; "overseas markets" [syn: {overseas}] adv 1: to or in a foreign country; "they had never travelled abroad" 2: far away from home or one's usual surroundings; "looking afield for new lands to conquer"- R.A.Hall [syn: {afield}] 3: in a place across an ocean [syn: {overseas}, {beyond the sea}, {over the (6 more messages)
15:25 <PovAddict> I had the spelling right then
15:27 <mwalling> &wx 12345
15:27 <Romulus> mwalling: Temperature: 67.5°F / 19.7°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers with a chance of thunderstorms. The high in the lower 70s. West wind around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. (1 more message)
15:28 <mwalling> fail...
15:28 * mwalling ooks at the sunny sky
15:30 <jackygrahamez> &dict inculcate
15:30 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: inculcate v : teach and impress by frequent repetitions or admonitions; "inculcate values into the young generation" [syn: {instill}, {infuse}]; moby-thes: 20 Moby Thesaurus words for "inculcate": beat into, brainwash, catechize, condition, engrave, etch, grave, imbue, implant, impregnate, impress, imprint, indoctrinate, infix, infuse, inoculate, (2 more messages)
15:31 <jackygrahamez> &more
15:31 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: inscribe, instill, program, stamp; gcide: Inculcate \In*cul"cate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Inculcated}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Inculcating}.] [L. inculcatus, p. p. of inculcare to tread on; pref. in- in, on + calcare to tread, fr. calx the heel; perh. akin to E. heel. Cf. 2d {Calk}, {Heel}.] To teach and impress by frequent repetitions or admonitions; to urge on the mind; as, Christ inculcates on his (1 more message)
15:31 <jackygrahamez> &more
15:31 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: followers humility. [1913 Webster] The most obvious and necessary duties of life they have not yet had authority enough to enforce and inculcate upon men's minds. --S. Clarke. Syn: To instill; infuse; implant; engraft; impress. [1913 Webster]
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15:40 <jackygrahamez> Tank_master do you have fios?
15:41 <jackygrahamez> I'm begging to think I have to sell my soul for that
15:53 <xcamel> re-hi
15:59 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
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16:43 <surrealillusion> hmmm hopefully my RAC will stabilize over the next week now ... it's looking good so far
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16:51 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez - yes, I have fios
16:54 <CoderForLife> hello
16:55 <CoderForLife> I'm expecting the president of the homeowner's association in 1-1/2 hours
16:56 <jackygrahamez> any good?
16:57 <CoderForLife> any good what? news?
16:57 <Tank_Master> yep
16:57 <Tank_Master> nice ping times
16:57 <Tank_Master> itll be upgraded soo to
16:57 <Tank_Master> soon*
16:58 <Tank_Master> itll be something like 10mbps down /2mbps up
16:58 <jackygrahamez> Why I can't get fios in the US capitol escapes me
16:59 <jackygrahamez> We just had a power outage this morning
16:59 <jackygrahamez> Happened a few days earlier as well
16:59 <jackygrahamez> I think the grid is having some problems
17:00 <CoderForLife> grid gremlins
17:01 <CoderForLife> happens everytime it's sunny, or raining
17:07 <jackygrahamez> good thing BOINC is powered by positive attitude :-p
17:14 <Immundus> where can you buy that ;)
17:16 <Tank_Master> jack - who is your landline phone provider?
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17:20 <efc> moo
17:21 <Tank_Master> hi
17:21 <CoderForLife> moo
17:26 <Soul_keeper> scanning a 1500 page pdf for a specific word is a real pain .... with some work i finally found what i needed tho ...
17:27 <Soul_keeper> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.toyota.trucks/browse_thread/thread/fb4090219d075dc0 can't beat a free factory service manual download even if it is in pdf
17:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5fl9ec> (at groups.google.com)
17:28 <efc> we have some group at work that scans thousands of pages of documents and OCRs them somehow
17:29 <CoderForLife> Acrobat support OCRing
17:29 <CoderForLife> +s
17:30 <CoderForLife> at least Acrobat Professional version 8 does
17:31 <efc> I assume they do something else besides that
17:31 <efc> they get the hot secretaries too
17:32 <Soul_keeper> :) time to go pickup my new carb, they just called
17:32 <Soul_keeper> gonna change transmission/differential oil, and fuel filter too
17:32 <Soul_keeper> bbl
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17:35 <xcamel> ip kills >> 80.95.81.39, 144.131.145.199
17:35 <CoderForLife> ip kill thrills =)
17:36 <CoderForLife> done - plinked - thanks
17:37 <xcamel> 'lo Don
17:39 <efc> &weather 30625
17:39 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 93°F / 34°C | Humidity: 21% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 60s. Light and variable winds shifting to the southeast after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the (1 more message)
17:39 <efc> &more
17:39 <Romulus> efc: morning...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds shifting to the northwest in the afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds.;
17:39 <CoderForLife> hello Jay
17:39 <CoderForLife> pseudo-science run amok http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/cbs_pulls_unvetted_story_blami.html
17:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4lnvo5> (at www.americanthinker.com)
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17:46 <efc> haha
17:46 <efc> well, i don't think the bad reporting is unique to science stories..
17:49 <efc> heh, this monitor is "Certified for use with Windows Vista® operating system" I wonder how you get that
17:50 <mwalling> pay 100k$ for a sticker?
17:51 <efc> I'm in the wrong business
17:53 <PovAddict> lol
17:54 <efc> I could sell "Certified for use with Linux" stickers
17:55 <efc> Today's special, only $90,000
18:06 <zombie67> malaria UTC is down
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18:12 <efc> Plot of my seti@home WU's on a skymap.. http://home.earthlink.net/~cottongim/skymap2.png
18:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6fjf3z> (at home.earthlink.net)
18:14 <PovAddict> what's the WUs?
18:14 <efc> teal, red, and yellow dots
18:14 <efc> green aren't done yet
18:14 <Immundus> hmm what?
18:14 <Immundus> done with what?
18:15 <efc> Processing, they are in the queue but not run
18:15 <efc> Thats only got my last 2 weeks or so of WUs :(
18:16 <Immundus> well ones on the pc that just wont compute so it will run out and the other is sharing time with firefox2 on a laptop
18:16 <Immundus> firefox is a ressource hog
18:16 <PovAddict> firefox3 uses less
18:17 <Immundus> yes havent got to upgrading Im lazy on compiling Im waiting for backports ;)
18:19 <Immundus> besides need the ressources for boinc ^^
18:23 <Immundus> is this a speed competition?
18:24 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam18/IMG_0304.JPG looks like terminator2 :)
18:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/68v5fb> (at sterlingdesktops.com)
18:25 <Soul_keeper> hmmm cpu hit 75c
18:25 * Soul_keeper suspends boinc
18:26 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
18:26 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 99.7°F / 37.6°C | Humidity: 8% | Pressure: in / hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 62 to 71. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs 94 to 99 in the western valleys to 100 to 105 near the foothills. Light winds becoming west 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Mostly (1 more message)
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18:28 <Soul_keeper> 75C = 167F
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18:30 <mwalling> Soul_keeper: were you the one who was going to get an eeepc a while back?
18:30 <Soul_keeper> mwalling, yeah i got one
18:31 <mwalling> get slack on it yet?
18:31 <mwalling> ;)
18:31 <Soul_keeper> yeah the first day
18:31 <Soul_keeper> hooked up with an ATT 3G HSDPA wireless broadband card too :)
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18:31 <mwalling> nice
18:32 <mwalling> i'm going to take whats sitting on my blog and put it on slackwiki... now i know where to find you for a second set of eyes :)
18:32 <Soul_keeper> i couldn't stand the default OS, it made it look/feel like a microwave or esspresso maker
18:32 <Soul_keeper> distro*
18:32 <mwalling> HAHA
18:32 <Soul_keeper> i installed slack from a 4GB usb flash drive
18:33 <mwalling> i used my ipod as an external hdd and used an sdcard for booting
18:34 <Soul_keeper> nice
18:34 <mwalling> you bump yours to 12.1 yet?
18:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah via just couldn't execute and get the nano to market, i can't wait for 2yrs for them
18:34 <Soul_keeper> no i'm content with 12.0
18:35 <Soul_keeper> 11.0 on my main desktop
18:35 <mwalling> ah
18:35 * mwalling caved and put hardy on his desktop
18:36 <Immundus> and you openly admit it?
18:36 <Soul_keeper> a friend of mine is trying to get me to try sourcemage
18:36 <Soul_keeper> sorcerer looks fun too i suppose, i just don't wanna take the time to try new distros
18:37 <PovAddict> I wonder what happened to that guy who I challenged to port BOINC to the iPhone...
18:37 <mwalling> haha
18:38 <Immundus> isnt there already a boinc for arm?
18:38 <PovAddict> the processor is only the first part of the challenge...
18:39 <PovAddict> many apps are un-portable because the iPhone compiler doesn't properly support C++ exceptions
18:39 <PovAddict> many apps are un-portable because their build system sucks for cross-compilation
18:39 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
18:39 <PovAddict> or because they need libraries that are un-portable for whatever reason :)
18:40 <PovAddict> most apps are just *hard* to port, not impossible
18:40 <PovAddict> recently somebody ported gcc to the iPhone, so maybe that'll help
18:40 <Immundus> well there is a iphone linux project just give them time
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18:40 <PovAddict> no more cross-compiling: can run the compiler inside the iPhone itself, compiling natively
18:40 <mwalling> whats the cpu in the iphone?
18:41 <PovAddict> arm
18:41 <mwalling> they didnt just get an offtheshelf arm?
18:41 <mwalling> oh
18:41 <PovAddict> they did, the problem is the OS and the incomplete toolchains
18:41 <mwalling> ah
18:41 <Immundus> of course its not off the shelf knowing apple its probably audiophile ...
18:41 <mwalling> heh
18:42 <BB_Laptop> &wx 86023
18:42 <Romulus> BB_Laptop: Temperature: 89°F / 31.7°C | Humidity: 5% | Pressure: in / hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 48 on the North Rim to around 73 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 78 on the North Rim to around 110 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. (1 more message)
18:42 <BB_Laptop> _more
18:42 <BB_Laptop> &more
18:42 <Romulus> BB_Laptop: Lows around 49 on the North Rim to around 74 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds around 15 mph in the evening becoming light.;
18:42 <PovAddict> Immundus: you'd be surprised of the audiophiles who said the iPod touch was crap playing music :P
18:42 <PovAddict> mwalling: Samsung S5L8900 (412 MHz ARM 1176 processor, PowerVR MBX 3D graphics co-processor)
18:42 * mwalling shakes his head
18:42 <mwalling> 3d graphics on a hand held
18:43 <PovAddict> mwalling: of course, it has full OpenGL-ES support
18:43 <mwalling> but *why*
18:43 <Immundus> well you want your icons animated and able to do funny stuff?
18:43 <PovAddict> and even without OpenGL, half the user interface effects would be impossible without hardware acceleration
18:44 <PovAddict> I'm compiling huge stuff, needing a 16-core...
18:44 <PovAddict> 2 cores ain't enough
18:45 <mwalling> distcc :)
18:45 <PovAddict> argh errors
18:45 <PovAddict> mwalling: that would involve having more than one computer running Linux
18:45 <mwalling> bah, dont *all* your machines run linux?
18:45 * mwalling ducks
18:46 <PovAddict> there's three computers in the house, all running different systems
18:46 <mwalling> osx, linux, win32?
18:46 <PovAddict> yep
18:46 <PovAddict> Linux here, Windows on the computer my sister uses for... MSN and web browsing, OS X on my dad's work laptop
18:46 <Immundus> well dist cc should work for osx
18:47 <Immundus> and for windows you can get it to run there too
18:48 <Soul_keeper> lol a noob just told me to e-mail him at user@darkstar to "see if my mail reader works"
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18:49 <mwalling> Soul_keeper: still in ##slackware?
18:49 <Soul_keeper> yeah
18:49 <mwalling> ouch
18:49 <mwalling> sorry :P
18:49 <Soul_keeper> lol
18:49 * mwalling 's glad phrag permabanned him
18:49 <Soul_keeper> i work all the time, so i don't have time to dodge people's ego's
18:50 <Soul_keeper> yeah i'm a patriarch of the community :)
18:52 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
18:52 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 102.0°F / 38.9°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 29.26in / 990.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8.7mph / 14.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 62 to 71. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs 94 to 99 in the western valleys to 100 to 105 near the foothills. Light winds becoming west 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night (1 more message)
18:52 <Soul_keeper> lol
18:52 <mwalling> &weather 12345
18:52 <Soul_keeper> went up 3F
18:52 <Romulus> mwalling: Temperature: 70.2°F / 21.2°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4.2mph / 6.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms this evening. Lows in the mid 50s. West winds around 5 mph this evening... becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday - Patchy fog in the morning. (1 more message)
18:52 <mwalling> thats a little better then before
18:52 <Immundus> a little weather obsession in this channel?
18:52 <mwalling> before it said mostly cloudy and i had to put my blinds down
18:53 <mwalling> Immundus: my personal weather station > Romulus
18:53 <Soul_keeper> Immundus, yes the weather can disrupt our highly overclocked boinc farms :)
18:53 <Immundus> hmm get a climated room
18:55 <efc> that floats
18:55 <Soul_keeper> it's not in the budget
18:55 <mwalling> heh
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18:56 * mwalling has his machines in an old VAX room, where even though we dont have the VAX anymore, we still maintain the cooling
18:56 <Immundus> now boinc for a vax that would be something
18:57 <mwalling> heh
18:58 * mwalling has his office in the old printroom... 3/4ths the cooling, but it has (asbestos) soundproofing, so i can have music on at quite a high volume
18:58 <Immundus> asbestos ... better not nail any pictures to the wall
18:59 <mwalling> hehe
18:59 <mwalling> the walls are a foamyish substance... velcro works great
19:00 <mwalling> (supposedly the fabric on the ouside (resembles cubical wall) is asbestos free)
19:01 <Rookie_69> Asbestos-free... Does that mean the asbestos passes freely through it?
19:01 <mwalling> hehe
19:01 <mwalling> prolly
19:01 <Immundus> the asbestos comes free of charge
19:01 <mwalling> knowing $employer
19:01 <Soul_keeper> iphones cause more damage than asbestos or smoking i hear
19:02 <mwalling> driving related?
19:02 <mwalling> hehe
19:02 <Rookie_69> Cell phones too by the way users drive...
19:02 <Soul_keeper> brain tumors apparently
19:02 <Immundus> only if you get caught in the shop on release day
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19:03 <Soul_keeper> they say most brain tumors form right where the cell phones sit by your ear
19:03 <Immundus> not long enough on the market to back a statement like that
19:03 <Soul_keeper> they just can't "prove" it yet
19:03 <PovAddict> I got d/c'd <.<
19:03 * mwalling uses a headset
19:03 <mwalling> 19:02 [*] PovAddict [n=nicolas@200.127.223.79] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
19:03 <PovAddict> bluetooth is radio signals too
19:04 <mwalling> lower wattage
19:04 * Rookie_69 usually just looks to see who tried to call him.
19:04 <PovAddict> 1mW lowest range
19:04 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn
19:04 <Rookie_69> Hiya, Jay.
19:05 <Immundus> well the xrays coming out of old tv sets was probably much worse ...
19:05 <Soul_keeper> maybe it's our brains trying to "mutate" to directly detect radio waves, like a 6th sense lol, cancer is basically mutations
19:06 <Rookie_69> X-rays from TV? Maybe that's why I don't have any kids.
19:06 <Soul_keeper> i heard they used to have xrays in shoe stores to make sure you got a "perfect" fit apparently those only lasted a few years
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19:07 <Soul_keeper> i guess it was a publically traded company and people actually invested in it
19:07 <BadBarbarian> http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/news/2008/06/gpu_power
19:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6gegcc> (at www.wired.com)
19:08 <BadBarbarian> hi all
19:08 <Rookie_69> Hi, BB.
19:08 <Immundus> hi BadBarbarian
19:09 <Immundus> I wonder how good their memory interconnects are over sli
19:09 <BadBarbarian> thats a great story
19:09 <Soul_keeper> nice
19:12 <BadBarbarian> unix was the first os to use perell prossesing with the Nqube back in the 80's
19:19 <Immundus> well night all
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19:31 * Rookie_69 thinks wdsmia might still be under water.
19:32 <xcamel> that would be funny if it wasn't so sad...
19:32 <Rookie_69> His network keeps dropping out for some strange reason.
19:32 <xcamel> FYI - so far more people, and more damage than Katrina, yet no lootong, shooting, or whining...
19:33 <PovAddict> what had more damage than katrina?
19:34 <Rookie_69> The Mississouri River.
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19:36 <wdsmia> that lake Mississouri
19:36 <xcamel> the current floods in the upper midwest
19:37 <xcamel> lake Dakoiowa..
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19:50 <xcamel> SciFiFriday!
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19:58 <xcamel> laterz...
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19:58 <Rookie_69> K.
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20:04 <xcamel> oh crap..
20:05 <xcamel> charlie jade gone already
20:05 <xcamel> repeat who
20:05 <xcamel> last week must have been the last BSG - and the ending sucked.
20:10 <efc> I dunno, you didn't expect them to run into star trek..
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20:13 <CoderForLife> back
20:13 <wdsmia> front
20:13 <Rookie_69> Don who?
20:13 <CoderForLife> HOA president and the other guy who came before have left
20:14 <CoderForLife> according to the report on LHC - we won't all die http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/20/1158097.aspx
20:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5be3fs> (at cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com)
20:16 <wdsmia> LHC has found the secret to eternal life?
20:17 <CoderForLife> yes, take two microscopic black holes and call me in the morning
20:18 <wdsmia> they give me interstellar gas
20:20 <Rookie_69> You sure that's not the burritos... oops he's gone again.
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20:21 <CoderForLife> and that was just one black hole
20:23 <Rookie_69> Even if it does screw up... It'll "probably" only take out Switzerland and France...
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20:29 <CoderForLife> why would it stop with that, Rookie_69?
20:29 <Rookie_69> Just optimistic, I guess.
20:29 <CoderForLife> probably open up the core, releasing a magma jet that will propel us into the sun
20:30 <CoderForLife> before the black hole can consume us
20:30 <CoderForLife> but then it can go to work on the sun
20:31 <Rookie_69> As the old guy in the hold of the Exxon Valdez in Waterworld said, Oh, thank God!
20:46 <CoderForLife> I'm exhausted after my visit from those guys - gn all
20:47 <Rookie_69> NN, Don.
20:50 <Rookie_69> You know you're getting old when that new junk you hate listening to starts playing on your favorite oldies radio station...
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20:50 <Rookie_69> You know you're getting old when that new junk you hate listening to starts playing on your favorite oldies radio station...
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20:52 <Rookie_69> You know your're getting old when you repeat yourself.
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21:06 <Rookie_69> You know your're getting old when you repeat yourself.
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21:18 <Rookie_69> No matter... I think it must be bedtime.
21:19 <Rookie_69> NN, BOINCworld.
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21:36 <Soul_keeper> carb installed and functional :)
21:36 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
21:36 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 97.3°F / 36.3°C | Humidity: 19% | Pressure: 29.26in / 990.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 62 to 71. Light winds.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs 94 to 99 in the western valleys to 100 to 105 near the foothills. Light winds becoming west 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - (1 more message)
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22:48 <wdsmia> &ping
22:48 <Romulus> pong
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23:25 <Soul_keeper> no idle speed adjustment screw, 2 extra unnessesary vacumm ports, and an uneeded secondary idle advance
23:25 <Soul_keeper> whoever rebuilt this carb didn't know much about my toyota
23:25 <Soul_keeper> like it was made for a different year or something
23:40 <efc> They took that stuff out?
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